Hello everyone I really hope that you can help me regarding a permit question.
I am from Slovenia (Eu citizen) i started my work in Zurich this year at the beginning of February. I am still currently on “probation period” with the company.
I was granted a B work permit (expiration date 2027)
What happens to my B permit if I say quit tomorrow?
How long will I still have a valid B permit?
I want to quit and look for a new job in CH.
(I asked my local Fremdenpolizei office this question and after 2 weeks of radio silence they just replied...”it depends” -.-
Might as well not have replied to me...)
Help?
EU? Five years, but you need to find a new job.
Find the new job first and then quit.
Hi guys,
I am planning on finding a new job asap. But this one is so bad, it doesn’t give me neither time to look or a will to live.
So aside from the obvious “apply for jobs while working”. ( a luxury I cannot afford ). What happens to my B permit this early if I quit?
I have means to support myself while looking for a new job
Hell it may not even be a question of me quitting. The end of probation period is soon and I am not doing well (according to their metrics). So I might just not get a contract extension...
So the question still stands. What happens to my B permit as EU citizen?
Do I get a downgrade to L? Get it taken immediately?
Again thank you so much for quick replies and support!
Why are you still on probation period? Maximum by law is 3 months if on an open-ended contract and no probation period allowed if on a fixed term contract (unless otherwise stipulated in the fixed-term contract).
I still have a month left of probation (which is 3month max), and the contract is open ended
With regards to the B permit if you quit, nothing happens: it’s still valid until the end date if you remain resident.
Although unrelated to your immigration status, you will be penalised if you claim unemployment benefits though (several months wait until you get any benefits).
If at all. OP, is this your first job in CH?
Presume OP was employed in Slovenia before coming in which case would qualify for Swiss unemployment insurance (minimum 12 months employment in Switzerland/EU within the past 24 month period). Payout is based on last 6 months, capped at equivalent of c. 148k annual.
True but I would imagine the salary level is much lower?
But OP has been contributing to Swiss unemployment insurance since February so the income taken into consideration will be from last 6 months of current job.
Hi guys
Wow so many replies.
I just wanted to know what happens to my B permit status if I ever decide to bite the bullet and quit or simply not get an extension of my contract from probational to full time indefinite.
Since @Limegrass said so, that I wont have any issues and that I will have time to use the permit to find another job. Which is comforting.
To answer some other questions:
1. Yes this is my first job in CH (I already have my pension fund set up, got my 2nd pay today, have my residence permit sorted...the "whole 9 yards")
2. Since I started in Feb I only had 2 salaries paid out so far, and I am paying all the contributions.
3. I previously worked in non EU country and even then its less than 6 months.
So no way that I am eligible for any benefits. (nor am I looking for them).
The only reason why I wanted to post here is because the stupid "Einwohnerdienste, Migration und Fremdenpolizei" in Bern cannot bother to answer for 2 weeks. And them comes back to me with "it depends"
This is their answer to me: "Thank you very much for your request. We cannot give concrete answers to such questions. It always depends on the overall situation. In the very few cases, however, the authorization is immediately downgraded or even completely withdrawn."
Ah understood, I was thinking of February 2021 not last month.
Just so you know the Einwohnerdienste, Migration und Fremdenpolizei in Bern does not make decisions, the cantonal migration authority does.
Personally I wouldn’t ask the canton anything, your 5-year EU/EFTA B permit is not linked to any employer and will not be downgraded or withdrawn if you quit your job (so long as you don’t receive social help and remain resident).
I'm in a similar situation to OP, and I sent a query to Zurich Cantonal Migration office. They haven't fully answered my questions yet, but they did say in clear terms that if you're fired on a B-permit then you have 6 months to find another job. This says to me that while the permit isn't directly associated with one particular employer, the B-permit is indeed tied directly to your continuous employment.
Like OP, I want to actively quit my job and take a few months off (luckily, I have the finances to do so), it would be great if my B-permit would continue to be valid for the full 5 years it was initially issued for, but that doesn't appear to be the case in Zurich. If I get a more complete answer from the Cantonal Migration office then I'll relay it here.
Since you are Irish it does not really matter... as an EU citizen you have a right to work here, so you can just get a new one. There is a general requirement that you must establish economic viability within five years in order to get a C permit, but the worst that can happen is you need to wait a little longer on a B permit
Assuming all the integration requirements outlayed in art. 58a of the Foreign Nationals and Integration Act (including producing language certificates) and there are no reasons to downgrade or revoke the permit
Thanks for the information Jim. I want to stay in Switzerland during this period of not being employed, have an apartment here, partner here, etc. so I need the B permit to stay valid rather than re-apply for a new one after a period of time having to live outside the country.
I know that I have a right to work here, but it's not clear to me yet what my rights are if I choose to take a short career break
You have acquired the right to work not the obligation to work. Your right to work and reside may be impacted if you claim social help (different to unemployment benefits).
The Zurich cantonal office advised you incorrectly or incorrectly assumed you would need to claim social help to cover living costs when you told them you would not work.
You have a right to:
- Establish a business
- Take up employment
- Seek employment, including receiving unemployment benefits
- Retire to Switzerland, if you are of the required age and have sufficient income
And that is it. There is no right to just rock up and take up residence in Switzerland or any of the EU/EEA states for that matter. Normally it is not an issue because this stuff is not checked but you are coming from a non Schengen country (Ireland) to a non EU country and that means they may decide to check you.
If you don't meet the requirements to obtain a permit in your own right, then you might need to explore the possibility of a family reunification permit.