Susan Boyle

Do you actually know anything about singing? Do you actually know anything about me? Do you actually know anything about whether I know anything about singing?

Actually, I do know what I'm talking about on this subject as a result of a great number of years being involved in it.

As I said, she's better than average but a long way from being great. Is it possible you listened to the hype more than the voice?

Judging is what this kind of competition is all about. The judges can't sing well either and neither can the audience and the millions of fans who are asked to judge by sending in their votes.

In the entertainment field, you as the audience certainly have the right to judge what entertains you or not. Same goes for books and films.

If you can sing and if your avatar is an accurate rendering of your looks, Mr Wu, I have no doubt you have what it takes to become Ms Boyle's male counterpart and achieve Youtube-stardom.

Was it just me or did she seem slightly unhinged? Those post-performance interviews with her were uncomfortable to watch. One second she seemed shy and embarrassed, the next manic.

Personally, I think she was lucky to get second. There were at least four other acts more talented and more entertaining than her.

Actually I've aged a little since my avatar picture was taken

As for Youtube stardom, I'll probably just stick to my famous elephant impression

Yup. We could definitely have done without the thigh flashing. Ugh!

Hi all!

I am new to this forum, looks fun! Great to find anglophones to chat with

I have to say that I am REALLY happy DIVERSITY won. Sure Susan Boyle was a surprise package, she shut a lot of mouths and she's pretty good, but over the last few weeks there has been such a hype over her that she has become totally overated. I think people were more enthousiased with the surprise aspect than her voice really.

Frankly, I much preferred Shaheem and Holly. They have incredible voices and are so young. Shaheem's audition made me cry soooo much! The way Simon stops the music (your heart just sinks) and asks him if he knows something else and he just blows it out of the water! Incredible, he is really the one who touched me the most. Stavros Flatly were funny and cute but they didn't deserve to be in the final. But they difinately should have won the congeniality or humorous prize!

Diversity is a good public choice, their stuff is so great, innovative, intelligent, every step is perfect and in sync. They really deserved to win! I hope they go far, totally deserved!

Totally agreed Mel 07... she did seem kind of up and down... makes you wonder, kind of scary actually

The final was great entertainment and have to say I really loved DIVERSITY, they were amazing. The part with the buzzers was so well thought out, excellent.

Some other good acts as well and I am sure they will all go on to better things including Susan Boyle. Maybe it is better that she did not win. With the limelight off her maybe she can progress better than if she won, personally I mean.

Susan Boyle? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...

Susan Boyle came off the boil ten years ago and she will never regain the lowly heights she had achieved then. She is a has-been - not some undiscovered amateur with talents ready to unfold. Forget her, as the rest of the world will do so in about a week.

Ask yourselves if this voice is or was ever ready for the world stage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRr9KxO_nRc

(groans please)

Susan Boyle has been all hype. She is nothing. She will be forgotten very quickly. Much greater singers than she have been forgotten. For example Bill Kenny, who propelled the Ink Spots to fame and even made them accepted by white audiences due to the incredible soaring quality of his tenor voice. You people who say Susan Boyle is a fantastic singer are just caught up in the hype and don't know what you are talking about when it comes to a singing voice. If you want to know what a singing voice sounds like then listen to Bill Kenny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvwfLe6sLis

Susan Boyle rushed to clinic

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090601/...c-ea4616c.html

Television company talkbackThames has released a statement offering her "ongoing support" amid newspaper reports that she had run amok backstage after her loss, shouting: "I hate this show."

I think the honeymoon with the media is over for her. This coming week they'll be ripping her apart and I'm betting there's a few juicy stories to come out.

Let's see if we can cut through the hype about Susan Boyle. I was a trained singer. I was a solo boy in a church choir and that takes talent as well as a lot of training. I was never great - I was just a bit better than the other boys whose voices had yet to break. A lot was expected of me and the voice training could be quite painful. I know what level I was supposed to aspire to, even though I might never make it.

Susan Boyle is not some undiscovered amateur who finally got her chance to use her talents in BGT. She has sung before and tried to get recognition. She has had exposure enough such that those who could spot talent could spot hers. She has made a few recordings as well as made a few appearances.

This is Susan Boyle at aged 22. She was singing in a club so it wouldn't sound great even if she did a perfect job. I thought she was very good in this performance. The musical accompaniment was dreadful and very distracting but she held the song together well despite this. Considering the conditions, I was very impressed with her performance.

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/05/73488/

Here she is in 1995 presumably aged 34. She looks awful. She is belting out a song which requires a lot more sensitivity. She sounds awful. I have never liked Barrymore (he makes my flesh creep) and it makes her performance seem even worse but she obviously has no appreciation of the way this song needs to be sung and she obviously has not progressed as a singer since her club performance. She sounds worse.

In 1999 at aged 37 she gave a very good performance of "Cry me a River" for a charity CD. She seems more suited to this sort of number. She is using her natural voice and it fits the piece well. There is some lack of control in her voice but it is still a very creditable performance and a sign that she could build upon this with some proper training, find more suitable numbers to sing and be good enough to record a CD.

On the same CD in 1999 she sings "Killing Me Softly". It is a poor performance. The main problem is her lack of expression. Also evident is her lack of voice control. As the song progresses she lacks even more expression and sounds like she is just going through the motions of singing it.

So here she is on BGT aged 47. Nobody has heard of her. You would think she has never sung before in her life and she gives a feisty rendition that belies her age and appearance. She gets a standing ovation for what was an excellent performance of "I Dreamed a Dream". Most of the credit she got was from the surprise effect and partly from the guilt people had from writing her off by her age and appearance.

So she sings in the semi-final of BGT. It could have been the stress of her sudden-found fame and her exhaustion that resulted in a miserable performance. She lacks voice control, is warbly in inappropriate places and mainly she lacks expression. She sings "Memory" from Cats and is frankly awful. Her start to the song is even off-tune. She proves herself to be no Elaine Paige.

For the final of BGT she goes back to singing her debut song that she knows she can do well but it signals that her repertoire might be limited and that she might be a one-trick pony.

If you have listened to these performances then ask yourself if her voice is ready for the world stage or will ever be.

She's out, she's gonna make a sh!t load of money. Good for her.

Case closed.

gezz Roland.. you can stop kicking now, she's already down..

Go on Roland, sing us a song, we'll appaud, right after i find my world's smallest violin.

And in a clinic. Hmmm, how'd that happen.

Poor lady went Doo-lal-li. It's the stress dontcha know!

It seems she won't singing herself on the live tour.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090612...r-5f8abb3.html

When she cuts her CD then will it be 10 renditions of "I Dreamed a Dream"?

Don't forget her cover version of "They tried to make me go to rehab"

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