Switzerland fertility falls to record low

So the take-away from this is women don’t need education, they need a man?

And doG says it’s up to women to control men’s libidos, as men can’t be expected to act like, y’know, adults?

I watched this nonsense just after reading Gloria Steinem’s obit.

Sigh.

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Was she parodying trad wives? I didn’t get the comedy bit.

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She’s a female Andrew Tate. Ugh.

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There wasn’t any.

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Sorry, I spend most of my time outside of Switzerland.

I’m a little surprised she hasn’t been cancelled on YT yet. She’s anti everybody except white Christians. Anti-Black, anti-Asian, anti-Indian, anti-Jew.

At least this guy was pulling his weight!

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I had exactly the same thought. Clicked on the web-site and then gave up when the cookies issue was not resolved quickly. Of course one is trusting a web-site when it does allow you to opt out. I had thought that opt out was the default here, but it is presumably an issue because of it being a world-wide web. With pay-walls, cookies issues, AI distorting your searches, mis-information and privacy concerns, the internet is becoming less of a pleasure.

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You can usually bypass these popups by switching to reader mode. F9 with FF or an icon in the URL bar, a text page icon in FF’s case.

Unfortunately not all pages are available in reader mode.

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The reality is even more grim… Dating is an inversive selection process. The really good, mentally stable, unused, well raised and well adjusted people - both men and women - are out of the dating pool by at latest 25 - even earlier. Many people are out at 20 or even out before they’re an adult, since they already have their future partner secured. If you want kids, there is 0 benefit to waiting longer than you absolutely have to, before you get them. Your genetic material isn’t getting better the longer you wait and this is far more important than to suck your bosses cock for a promotion…

After that point, it’s just unwanted, used and traumatized garbage dating unwanted, used and traumatized garbage - and you may are lucky enough to get someone who was committed early, but their partner was a bad person/changed due to a mental illness or something, but in 80% of chanes it’s just that - garbage and garbage. And even if they aren’t garbage, they’re still used and traumatized. (Thank god I have all this nonsense behind me)
And their kids will also be garbage - kids of divorced parents are like 400% more likely to divorce themselves - and divorce is worse than some forms of abuse for the stable development of children. And poof - now you have a whole inheritable desease in your societal pool which spreads like Corona.

This is what you get when you degrade your societ and culture in order to feel morally superior… I think the woman is 100% right in everything she says. Even the 1st girl in the vidoe is making the same point I am making - I hope she can actuall find a god husband that isn’t garbage and have a fruitful family.

No, it’s that women and men have distinctly different biological roles in society and there’s nothing wrong with that.The way of life we have now has ben brought to us to half the value of labor, at the price of a functioning fruitful society…

Wow just wow!
Words fail me! I wouldn’t even know where to start in response to this nonsense.

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I second you, BM and perhaps also add that perspectives shaped by experience and viewpoints have an intrinsic nature of influencing each and every one of us.

Life is whether the glass is half full or half empty … Bastard Murphy has his ways … )

If only every woman could find a god husband that isn’t garbage - the world would be a better place.

It seems to me that Aargauer’s glass has a gaping trauma-shaped hole in the bottom.

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if I may, I’d also like to say this forum has always (mostly) supported full ‘rainbow colors’.

while I may agree to disagree with anyone else on this forum, I, both welcome their input and also mine.

that I find is the beauty of this forum.

:folded_hands:

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I find Andrew Tate wannabees.

Luckily biological facts aren’t affected by artificial, virtue signaling outrage

This is a tread about the birth rates of Switzerland, part of this is dating. I am actually married and quite happy and I also talked to my wife about these topics.

As said, outrage and personal attacks won’t save y’all - in the end, the way we have family life in the modern west is just self destructing, not because I or you or whoever has a good or bad experience, but because the societal fundament is paced the wrong way - at least that’s my oppinion.

Andrew Tate is an English scammer, who sells out to make buck and tells people they need even more materialism and hedonism to get some girls… I don’t subscribe to anything he says, except for maybe getting in shape - which is quite universally seen as positive.

Right here, this is the explanation of low fertility: killing the good in the name of perfect.

There could be children but since they come from “garbage” parents they are unwanted. So, the outcome of chasing perfection is…extinction :ok_hand:

The curious part is that there’s plenty of great adults out there that come from not so great parents.

Chill out. That idea of controlling everything is great if you work in a nuclear power plant, a chemical plant or aviation safety. But, applying this to life will end in serious hurt. Be careful.

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This sounds a bit different from your original statement of

Human beings are complex creatures. To reduce everyone who is older than 25 who is not married and/or doesn’t have kids to “unwanted, used and traumatized garbage” is ridiculous. It’s your opinion, but it’s a misinformed one (in my opinion).