I wouldn't want such a rigid and rule based society not even in Switzerland where the rules do benefit the members of the group.
I think it's okay. The teens probably can't get their booze into the clubs and can't afford to buy it in the clubs, so that's why they're hanging out at the stations. They could do it at home but hey they're teenagers - let them hang out a little as long as they don't hurt someone. To a teenager, it's just like hanging out and having a good time at the lowest cost. I'd let them be.
> many other places ? Sure, quite many of them DO go to the lakeside, I would say rather more than to train stations. Public parks are beautiful if the weather is warm and dry and stable, but bad if the weather is changeable or cold
> Most of them neither trash the place nor harass passersby
> there ARE people who complain about the young in case of teenagers both along the lakeside and in public parks
... but an epidemic of teen pregnancy is rarely related to the number of teens having sex. For example, last I checked the stats, the majority of teens in the US don't have sex, but they have the highest teen pregnancy rate of the industrial world. In Switzerland, rumour has it, a few people have terrible sex as teenagers and there are few pregnancies.. hardly worth writing home about. There's no teen unemployment because teens aren't expected to work. I've met students in their mid-20s that have never held a job in their lives.
My experience has mostly been with the younger university kids and they seem quite coddled compared to the international students. But that's like comparing apples to oranges, the international students have to apply and only the best are admitted, the Swiss students just register for classes, and a huge chunk just drop out. I doubt there's a difference between the students that graduate when comparing the Swiss and Foreigners. Then again, the people hanging at the train station are not usually going home to study after hanging out there.
I don't see the problem. Teens do almost exactly the same things we did in the early seventies. Exept that then the boys went "ängländerle", means they went after the British girls, who spent a couple of weeks in the Bernese Oberland with their public schools. I guess it must have been heaven for our lads. So seen they are rather tame nowadays.
The recent thread about loud teenagers reminded me of this one.
I know it's a thread resurrection, but this contribution deserved more recognition.
Clarifying which orifice to use when poisoning teenagers is always helpful.
The bogans that hang around train stations in Australia are much worse, and often violent too.
I've only ever seen a few Swiss bogans, they are pretty rare.
Exactly, we did the same in the 60s - as long as they don't trash or intimidate- let them be.
When we were 16 we used to meet up with our loves from a rival school, in the Buffet de la Gare in Geneva Train Station. And have beer drinking competitions. Beer was cheap - about 2.50 for a canette.
Great fun, but going home at 6pm trying to pretend to be sober was a hardship!!
Everyone did it, we were not too obnoxious and stayed polite. We also had the local café at Grange Canal, near school. The kids still hang out there!!
No pregnancies, a bit of harmless flirting and snogs. Ciggie smoking and very rarely, a joint, which someone got from an older brother or sister.
Everyone did it, and still do. And if it makes you feel strange - you are just using your selective memory to forget doing it!!
I still have good memories, and often wonder what some of them are up to now.
It's not at all clear from the OP exactly what they're annoyed about.
- loudness
- alcohol
- weed
- youth
And whether they're annoyed about it happening, or just not having any of the above themself.
And why do people assume the youths are bored? They have music, beer, weed and friends, which is basically a recipe for a good night after school, why would they be bored?
I do exactly this with my kids in the house.. any petty he said, she said arguments or fights get a sound dose of loud classical music. The lark ascending is a good favourite or Barber's agnus dei - stops them in their tracks, every time
Wow. This the long troll . Chapeau, whoever you are...
Pretty discriminating term " bogan " .
Bloody hell, don't give away all our secrets.
its not just you but its all good unless they are violent or destructive. in most places the police will not even bother with it unless they are very bored and dotn have anything else to do. if you call the police they will ask you: did you talk to them and as them to stop and go away? YES it happened to me last year!
Shit. The OP is from 2012!!!!
Well smoking is one thing . But when these " station " smokers start beating up on people then one has to take radical action.
So what? Here's Socrates on the subject way back in 399 BC:
FTFY.
Tom
So what would a Swiss " bogan " look like?
Bogan:Uncultured, unfashionable, uncouth, unsophisticated, uninformed, unknowing, uncool.
50 years ago that would have described most Austalians. And now?