Not just distribution. It takes energy to crack helium from moisture in the air or water. Something like 20-25% of the energy is lost. In hydrogen production via electrolysis, 60–70% of the input energy goes to the product, while the rest is released as heat. We don’t need more heat.
And that is only electrolysis. If you look at end-to-end, you may be down to 30% of the input electricity that actually powers your car. It is horrendously inefficient. Green hydrogen will have a use case in some industrial clusters close to large renewable installations, but I don’t see it for any distributed use. Going straight to electric is just so much better.
And yet it’s gaining traction… not to mention the horrific cost (not just financial) of batteries that EVs have…
There is no “clean” solution. Each one just distributes the mess in a different way…
As an energy storage system, hydrogen is inefficient compared to pumped water or a battery, but for large EV trucks, hydrogen may be the way to overcome the heavy battery problem.
Domestic terrorism!!!
No. It’s someone drawing in the sand with a sand flail which will disappear when the tide comes in.
You don’t get to decide what’s funny or not.
Actually it’s “terfysgaeth ddomestig” ![]()
Activists Used a Tesla to Write ‘Don’t Buy a Tesla’ on a Beach in Wales - Business Insider
I am afraid the boycott appeals could achieve the opposite…never underestimate the stupidity of some contrarians. Luckily it’s too expensive, otherwise we’d have probably seen a significant increase in sales… ![]()
Hey, I’d be over the moon if some of those right loonies in the US decided to buy Teslers just to spite us left wing moderates.
why is this thing called pick-up truck? Isn’s a pick-up truck something you can load stuff on/in?
It’s no problem really. Trump will sign a declaration on Monday, banning all cars that don’t lose bits on the road while driving. e.g. Teslas only on American roads unless Ford etc. loosens some screws.
Nah, F150s forevermore!
THAT is what I call a pick-up truck.
One to drive to Hornbach with. Or to Ikea if a lazy person.
T-online.de did an online survey of German users which found 94% of the respnders would never buy a Tesla
They left the poll open and a week later with many more reponses it changed to 70% would buy a Tesla.
Elon celebrated
T-Online did internal research which now shows that 253,000 of the votes cast came from just two IP addresses in the US so not from Germany .
This suggests that the survey may have been manipulated.
A pathetic attempt to manipulate the poll in favour of Tesla, now who might have done that?
Of course the naysayers may just as well be bots. The massive shift after the initial wave (see below) is a strong indicator in that direction.
That aside, assuming all others were non-bots that still leaves 30% pro Tesla, which doesn’t look that bad. Would 30% buy a Skoda, Merc, or BMW?
Ha, this article should have been in the Friday thread (maybe this entire thread should move there?). Thanks for the giggle.
Ah, and this thing actually does have a flatbed - first time I saw a picture from the necessary angle.
Petrol pumps and H2-pumps are from totally different worlds.
If you think batteries don’t scale, wait till you see how H2 refueling scales (or rather doesn’t).
Yeah. I guess it’s BMW. That’s going exactly nowhere.
Everybody knows this. It’s just a grift to earn some subsidies.
The world is moving to electric in the same way that horse-drawn carriages were replaced with automobiles 120-ish years ago.

