There isn’t a cycling thread on this forum although there a few from the old one but they are quite specific and there’s probably no need for them to continue.
This one is for any thing bicycle related in Switzerland -especially routes worth doing, cycling for fitness, gear etc.
Please feel free to ignore if cycling is not your thing rather than troll.
Anyway, there is now, in the summer months, a free shuttle bus for cyclists on Axenstrasse which allows transit on the section of road prohibited to cyclists between Brunnen and Sisikon on the Vierwaldstättersee.
It runs every ten minutes and allows a longer ride around the lake or a round ride, for example, going over the Klausen pass.
Thanks, I didn’t know it’s possible! I did a tour around Zurisee, Zugersee, Lac Leman, time to encircle Luzernersee but this one I doubt I can do in one go, especially nowadays
Unfortunately, most roads along or near lakes in Switzerland are high traffic (I guess it’s the organic development) and not alway bike friendly. Getting into the mountains is more fun
True, but sometimes a round trip in the mountains does require a bit of going around a lake - the Pragel-Sattelegg-Ibergeregg passes route for example goes round the Sihlsee for a bit.
Agree with you generally though - especially on routes with no, or little vehicular traffic.
For those that don’t know (I’m sure you do!) - some passes are closed partially or fully to vehicular traffic at weekends, on Sundays or on special days such as:
Pragel Pass - closed on Glarus side to vehicles at the weekend.
Klausen Pass - Closed to vehicles on 13-09-2026 otherwise restricted at weekends.
Gotthard Tremola - almost devoid of vehicular traffic.
Then there are mountain roads which aren’t passes with not much traffic, or only up to a certain point such as up the Rigi or the Wildspitz.
Of all the passes I’ve done in CH (and I’ve done a lot), the most brutal so far are:
*Weissenstein from Solothurn
*Panoramastrasse (Giswil-Sorenberg OW)
*Alpe di Neggia from Vira (TI)
I would have to disagree too - to an extent - the Kanton border line on the NE side is quite a bit just before Richisau but well after the pass summit.
I misunderstood your post though - I thought you had cycled up from the Klöntal side and gone down the same way.
I expect you know Climbfinder where the climbs are rated on difficulty using length, steepness in their calculations.
Anything over 1000 points is a pretty tough climb.
Where, for me at least, the pre-Alp climbs trump is that although they can be long and steep, they are at a lower altitude so it’s not so bl***dy freezing coming down.