The confusion between HP and PS is quite common.
Even shipping your car privately from China is relatively cheap:
BYD doing it in bulk with their own ships is going to be much cheaper.
Shipping rates have gone crazy since covid and now with tariffs creates a lot of volatility.
I would be wary of personal import of a EV from China for the simple reason that it may not be covered by European warranty and things like mapping and cellular data may not work here. These are more like iPhones than conventional cars that any mechanic can work on, so without manufacturer server access you could be screwed.
I suspect the BYD cars on autoscout are grey imports from the EU.
Happy to see BYD in Switzerland. Too bad for me, thought, it sounds like they don’t plan to bring in the Seagull. But here’s hoping one day…
Have you looked at the Hyundai Inster for your purposes?
I wonder if they will also sell cars from lower down in the range.
Some news for those who miss the good old days
That would feel weird, not least because there would be no clutch pedal to depress first. For me, the two motions go hand in hand (or hand in foot? ).
Betcha it would cost a bomb …
Maybe Chinese EVs are a thing.
Porsche sales in China took a 42% dive in China in Q1 2025 while the 911 is selling well. That means the EVs are in problems. There’s a hint that Porsche may even pull out their EVs from China.
Porsche’s China sales have fallen for three straight years.
Volkswagen and Porsche CEO Oliver Blume dismissed concerns about declining Porsche sales in China as he addressed reporters after unveiling VW and Audi models on Tuesday ahead of the Shanghai show.
“We don’t care about the volume,” Blume said, adding he was more concerned about keeping prices high - at a level “appropriate for Porsche.”
Blume denied Porsche competed directly with Chinese brands such as Xiaomi and Yangwang: “They are cool cars,” he said, but they lack Porsche’s “driving ability” and play in a “lower pricing segment.”
Blume said the company might abandon the EV segment entirely in China, where more than half of new cars sold are now EVs and hybrids. Porsche sells two EVs here, the Taycan and Macan. It does not report specific model sales by country but Blume said Porsche’s EV sales in China were “relatively low.”
“We will see in the next two to three years whether Porsche exists as an electric brand here,” he said.
If you look at Porsche Taycan residuals, they are nothing like those for the 911.
To me it seems that EVs are fairly utilitarian (almost disposable) machines which don’t evoke the same emotion as a gas powered sportscar, hence why they don’t retain the same value over time.
Smartwatch vs Patek Philippe.
Doesn’t mean that a Tesla is no fun to drive. It’s just different.
While cars exist, people are continuing to ride horses. I would assume the same thing happens to ICE cars.
The problem with that analogy is that smartwatches eclipse automatic analogue watches in almost every measure other than style and value. Same with cars and horses, but an EV only really beats ICE cars in terms of tailpipe emission and acceleration.
We have less range, longer recharge times and the cars lose half their value after 3 years. So it’s a good choice if you want to be less locally polluting or have sports car performance for family car prices.
Indeed, I just came back home after riding the bike a bit in the forest. A mountain bike is heavy compared to a road bike, pedaling is inefficient on the way up due to seat tube and front suspension angles, utterly impractical to go from A to B, but extremely fun while going downhill in a single trail.
I guess cars and bikes have the same problem, we use the very same word for the utilitarian and the fun objects when they’re completely different in design and purpose.
The problem is that fuel is too cheap. If it was priced according to what it costs to re-create, more people would evaluate their choice of car.
If you want to get a glimpse of what the price of fuel should be, take a look at what e-Fuels cost.
And that doesn’t even take into account the negative effects of tailpipe emissions…
7.67 CHF/liter. But it still has 20% oil content.
It’s expensive, but only ~4 times more expensive than good old gasoline. If I drive 20k km per year, using efuel and keeping the same costs would yield 5k km. Not ideal, but also not the end of the world.
Also, if fuel costs 7.5 francs/liter those 5k km per year will be pure joy!
As my Math professor said: “ceteris paribus”.
You are assuming that the amount of gas stations will stay the same.
That will absolutely not be the case. Look to Norway for a look into that future.
As such, filling up will more and more resemble the tedious task of charging a BEV on a long-distance trip in 2017.
Selling gas isn’t profitable at the volumes they sell today already. I doubt they’ll keep selling it when the volume declines significantly.
TBH, I wish it would be more common to pay at the pump and avoid going inside to pay. I don’t know how expensive would be gasoline in gas station than only sells gasoline and not junk food, cigarettes and lotto tickets.
I think the Coop Pronto uses gas/petrol as a loss-leader to bring people into their shops. Particularly when you can just about always get 4-5 centimes off.
Tip, after filling up look around the entrance for the free Coop magazine, In it you will find a coupon for centimes-off. Don’t bother tearing the coupon out just present it to be scanned. On your way out replace the magazine it its rack.
Edited to add.
I learned this from an employee one time with a coupon that expired. I can’t use this as it won’t scan but I can use one of these instead …