and I’m not 16! ROFL. that made me really chuckle
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By the way, thibking about bees… I sweeten with honey. For tea I use the cheap stuff, botton shelf Aldi @3,50 a glass but do get the good stuff from time to time.
Now a genuine question: Why does the better quality honey make me cough?
Calorie for calorie, I don’t think it makes much difference to sugar.
Seriously? No wonder there’s an obesity problem…
Having a couple of slices of bread everyday isn’t going to make you fat.
Having a whole load might - especially if you load them with nutella or honey!
I saw that @slammer liked your post.
Should I tell him that it’s probably not the slice of bread in the morning (32 calories) which is the problem but the two slices of sausage on top (200-300 calories) which is the problem?
Even I can do the simple maths.
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probably the presence of pollen.
Please don’t buy the cheap sh*t. That stuff is as good as using sugar - because, that’s what it is! It’s not me who says it…it is the EU themselves Food fraud: How genuine is your honey? - Joint Research Centre
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My reading of her post was that she was suggesting that 16 year olds use TikTok and she’s not 16, and it made her chuckle. Sorry if that’s wrong, @Izzy
How pure is organic (bio) honey or does it depend and what I’m actually buying is organic sugar?
I heard (anecdotally) that if you’re allegic to pollen, you should buy local honey (as in really local, from the beekeeper in your neighborhood) as it contains the pollen you might be allergic to and this might help with your allergies.
Not an answer to your question, but it felt related.
that’s what I meant! 
than you for the traslation
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Maybe laying off the emojis a bit and using full sentences may convey meaning better?
This isn’t Facebook!
(Have we mentioned Instagram yet?)
She didn’t use any emojis and her meaning was pretty clear to me.
Oh yes she did:
that’s a very interesting question! Your question contains two different questions on it
(a)
is your organic (bio) honey swiss or European, or ‘of other source’? Swiss bio honey has very strict regulation: a 3 km radius where 100% is to be bio crops or wild crops, absolutely no GMO, no chemicals for mite treatment, only feeding with bio sugar in strict periods and situations, 100% untreated wood, the apiaries cannot be close to a city, to a road or a ‘pollution site’, and a million and more little details, with at least 2 regulatory visits per year, a veterinarian visit, and a thousand papers (and money involved). The result: a very expensive honey with very high quality, and really pain in the a** to produce.
If it is European - relax all those regulations a little bit (or a lot, in a couple of cases)..and you have EU bio honey. Problem is that usually the EU bio honey that lands to the Migros (or Coop, or Aldi) shelf is a ‘mix of EU honeys’ – even in the Bio case. Now, apply the EU publication from my previous posting.
If you are buying Swiss bio honey, no. The sugar that is fed to the bees is only fed after the 2nd (and last) harvest, when the honey frames have been removed, so the sugar is stored (and capped) only on the brood frames, which are the ones the bees feed on during the winter, and are never extracted for honey. (This is both for bio & normal honey in good beekeeping practice - the only difference, is the bio-beekeepers can have an inspection at any time about it, and they have to use bio-sugar, instead of normal sugar).
My recommendation? (as a beekeeper, and grand-daughter of beekeepers) – buy from your local beekeeper. Check where the apiaries sit, meet him (or her), understand if s/he treats the bees ‘naturally’ (or humanely, if you prefer) - s/he will be delighted to talk about it. When you taste that fresh honey, you won’t buy again from a supermarket.
And, now, emoji 
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Thanks for the answer.
My grandmother used to keep bees.
I was always amazed about how much honey her hives produced.
that’s my problem… with blue cheese & honey…and no, I have a 24 BMI, 85-88 cm2 visceral fat. What annoys me is that the gluttony it is stronger than me!
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- spring honey contain minute pollen amounts (depends on the filtration coarseness and / or if the honey has been heated / pasteurized during the process). Good honey extractions preserve the pollen --which is nothing more than plant “semen” . If someone is allergic to a particular type of pollen, ingesting it triggers a mild response, ‘training’ the mast cells of the immune system. @slammer sneezing could be the mild response
for those interested > Does Bee Pollen Help with Allergies?
I like your characterization of honey and your heritage of keeping bees, and I personally try to buy only (very) local honey … but also note the difference between succrose C12H22O11 and bee sugar (mostly) C6H12O6:
Molecular Differences at a Glance
| Feature | Sugarcane Sugar | Honey (Bee Sugar) |
|---|---|---|
| Primary Chemical Form | Disaccharide (Bound together) | Monosaccharides (Separated/Free) |
| Main Components | 100% Sucrose | ~40% Fructose, ~30% Glucose, ~17% Water |
| Chemical Bonding | Strongly linked by a glycosidic bond | Mostly unbonded, loose individual molecules |
| Digestion Speed | Slower initial split (requires enzymes in your gut to break the bond) | Fast absorption (the bees already did the structural splitting work) |
| Fructose-to-Glucose Ratio | Exactly 50:50 | Roughly 56:44 (More fructose, making honey taste sweeter than table sugar) |
No expert at all, but from a metabolic point of view, you need a large magnifying lens to spot the differences (calorie wise). Molecule wise, honey still seems favorable. Calorie wise … well as some have pointed out already: a calorie is still a calorie.[c]
c I disagree with this statement, of course. A calorie in a kg of food is not a calorie that you can absorb while that calorie of food passes through your body. I.e. 10k calories of fat or prime rib or just pure olive oil will get less absorbed than 10k calories of beans or peas or lenses which get less absorbed than 10k calories of pasta or sugar or honey.
This is just pure physics, chemistry and biology in the time measured the food has to pass through you.
Lidl sells a Gorgonzola and Marscarpone cheese: It’s quite easy to eat half a tub in one go. It’s really good.
A 200g tub has 802 calories.
As I wrote before - it’s not the bread.
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There was a recent Kassensturz program that tested honey and found most was fake
Only the majors like Aldi had 100 % real honey
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That wasn’t the post I was referring to, I was referring to the one which Shirley translated for you which I believed to be the post under discussion.
It’s easier for people to know what you’re referring to if you quote the post you’re replying to.
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