Titlis or Pilatus with a baby is advisable?

Transportation, Travel and Trips
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Hi i have guests and planning for a trip to Pilatus or Titlis this weekend. Is it advisable to travel with a 8 month old baby to mountain top. Is the places pram friendly ?

Any other suggestions are welcome with Thanks

Adding to the above, I have heard from my friend, in Zermatt they dont allow babies up the Matterhorn peak due to high altitude/pressure changes might affect the babies less than 2 years. So any idea about Titlis or Pilatus. Also which would be better ?

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I don't think either would be a problem, but I much prefer Titlis Rigi (the cable car up and train down are included in SBB day tickets) as the space at the top seems more pleasant and I love the ferry ride to/from Wegis and Vitznau.

With a cheap day ticket (i.e. the ~40Fr Tageskarte-gemeinde ones) it's the best value and prettiest day out there is. I recommend it to anyone who visits me.

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The general rule seems to be, not over 3000m until over 3 years old.

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Really? Last time when we took cable car we had to pay extra. We have GA which is equivalent to Tageskarte. I think we had to pay 35 CHF each for both ways, 50% discount because we have GA.

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We were advised by mother-father counselling not to take babies up by cable cars because of sudden change in altitude. She told that it might give them ear-ache and fatigue but hiking up was okay because of slow change in altitude helping them to adjust. If you have to go give him a pacifier or a milk bottle like during flight, might help.

Personally I prefer Pilatus than Titlis.

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Do you mean Pilatus?

I don't think the SBB Tageskarte would get you up the Titlis, if it is then it's a pretty good deal indeed and should be equally acceptable on Pilatus too I would have thought.

Edit:

Just checked on the Titlis website. The GA and Halb-tax give no 50% reduction, the SBB Tageskarte is a 1 day GA card so it will give you the same 50% discount so you will have to pay ~CHF45 instead of CHF89.- for an Adult return pass.

Source: http://www.titlis.ch/en/tickets/cabl...abpaneltabs1_0

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I meant Rigi. No idea why I had that in my mind!

Anyway, my advice is ... go to Rigi Not Pilatus nor Titlis. Whoops.

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Ha ha thought you might have meant that actually too! Cos the ride from Fitznau / Weggis is nowhere near Pilatus neither!

I would also recommend Rigi, it's about 1800m high and indeed included in the Tageskarte card, though it might be too late to get that now. Weggis is quite majestic! But the forecast for tomorrw looks grip everywhere so I wouldn't be heading up to any mountains, certainly not with an 8 month old baby

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Hey thanks all.. yes, I have the GA card for my guests... so thanks I did consider Rigi, but my guests are more eager to have fun in snow. Since both titlis and pilatus is not so much baby friendly I will consider sattelaegri /rigi mountains ;-) also checked that there is less snow In pilatus when compared to titlis.. http://www.pilatus.ch/de/webcams/

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I wouldn't get too excited about snow... I don't think it's snowed up there for months, it's mainly ice

Ace1 would know, I have never been up Titlis in the summer!

Ace1: Any planned biking excursions this summer with Prime? (apologies for the hijack)

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Some say: " It is definitely NOT advisable to take young children younger than two years old to higher altitudes than 1500m a.s.l." http://www.rund-ums-baby.de/reisen/berge.htm

Other say: "It is especially problematic if you rapidly overcome altitude differences, e.g. by cable cars. We advise not to travel higher than 2500m in the first three years. " http://www.swissmom.ch/baby/haeufige...in-den-bergen/

Other say: " Infants in the first 2 years of life should not sleep at higher than 2500 metres. Short-term stays at the Jungfraujoch are unproblematic. Infants and young children are often unable to equalise pressure during descent and are therefore increasingly at risk of ear irritation." http://www.jungfrau.ch/en/tourism/tr.../medical-tips/

With babies it can be dangerous since they cannot tell you how they feel and what exactly hurts, and even if you recognize it, the only solution would to lose altitude and this is often not immediately possible.

And in general you probably can say that children born in "low lands" with "Flachland" parents (genes!), you should not do it during the first three years or be especially cautious.

In any case, first of all speak to the child's physician about your intention to take them to high altitudes.

Of course, you preferably need to know how high these mountains are! ... And you can't do this from looking at their pictures.

Rigi: 1798m

Pilatus: 2119m

Kleintitlis: 3032m

Sphinx @ Jungfraujoch: 3572m

Of course snow melts, if temperatures usually get higher than 0 degrees

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@Sublime Thanks for the informatio information. Even I have been browsing a lot on it and dare not to take risk.. There is no minimum age for the cable car ride up to Titlis. It is up to the parents, if they want to take a baby up to 3000 meters. There is a lot of pressure for the baby due to the difference in height, so we should make sure to make breaks while going up and give the baby a lot to drink... finally decided no risking, better to avoid taking babies less than 2yrs to high altitude ..

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We took our one year old to the top of Pilatus and Zermatt ( gornergrat) without any issues. Just make sure to bring extra clothes/blankets for the temperature difference.

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So what happens to people who live in Tignes at 2100m? I know several people who had babies whilst living there & the toddlers were skiing a lot higher than 2500m by their third birthday.

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They, of course, have been adjusting to the higher altitude. And secondly, not every baby, or person in that respect, is the same, of course. Otherwise there would not be any altitude nausea by no one.