UK elections

The UK has had right wing austerity, populism, and inequality for 14 years so, in that respect, Europe just seems to be behind the UK and is now on the cusp of this phase. Last night proved it doesn’t work so it’s back to the centre with hopefully some less chaotic and divisive politics from now on.

FR and DE probably just have to go through it, too.

At around 60%. it was the second lowest voter turnout since 1885.

The votes for Labour were up only a few %. It was a disastrous loss for the Conservatives rather than a massive Labour win…

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That’s the difference.The common thing is that both left and right in UK and EU try to distance themselves from antisemitic (ex)colleagues.

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Clacton swung to the extreme right !

Reporter who questioned Nigel Farage about standing for Clacton said - “You’ve announced you’re standing to become Clacton MP. This is despite you previously saying, and I quote: ‘Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton ?’

Continuing declining living standards but with even more brown people and rainbow flags?

Just a shame they’ve got that slimy, odious little git as their leader.

I honestly can’t see them doing much better than their predecessors but it’s going to be an interesting ride.

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I’m going to start off hopeful and see where it goes from there. I quite like his team, Reeves, Rayner, Cooper, Streeting, etc., all seem down to earth and not the public school morons that ran the country beforehand. Let’s see how it goes.

To be fair, I’d pick labor in England as the much much lesser evil than Le Pen, Orban, Trump, etc, etc. I think right now the English voter is the only adult in the room amongst the major European countries.

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I can’t disagree with you there.

Pretty much sums up the centre-right: they see problems, they want solutions but most importantly they don’t want to be seen as being ‘mean’ about it.

As opposed to wanting to “be seen as being mean about it”, you mean? Kind of sums up populism really, doesn’t it? The solutions don’t matter so long as you can appear as inhumane as possible to impress the hard-of-thinking.

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LOL. So you just didn’t take your meds yesterday?

With hearts of full of joy and positive mind sets, Brits will have a month or two love affair with their new government. Then reality will set in.

It is a situation the few, if any countries, have experienced: post industrial decline. The once war-winning empire that the sun never set on, is, like the west in general, in decline as the East continues to rise.

The straws of North Sea oil have been clasped and wasted. Going it alone without the EU didn’t work either. A massive social system and the NHS are bleeding what’s left (if there is any left) dry.

Answer: same old same old…

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Low expectations from Labour. The Tories were in for 14 years because of how bad Labour was. I guess after 14 years people have forgotten and/or the Tories were so terrible the last few years that people just want them out.

Labour just need to be slightly less incompetent than the Tories to stay in power. Honestly, they might have gotten into power earlier had they ditched Corbyn, who is frankly unelectable.

Many voters swung further right, but that split their vote between Conservative and Reform and benefited Labour.

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You mean that Corbyn guy that was elected as an independent?

What’s his party: National Socialist?

“Unaffiliated” according to wiki.

I mean the one that single-handedly kept the Tories in power by being the alternative.