UK elections

It has been covered by the BBC in the run-up to the election and upon the result but, as you say, not in much detail but this morning they played the crowds cheering in Tehran and waving the party green flags.

I hope things improve for the people within Iran and with international relations too - both are on the agenda for Masoud Pezeshkian.

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It is the top internal item on the BBC News web-site, at the moment.

I don’t get how proportional representation would work. Each constituency can only have one MP, so if you were to do proportional representation would you have to get rid of the local MP system?

Proportional representation in Switzerland works as follows for elections to the National Council (lower house of parliament):

  1. Most cantons use a proportional representation system, except for cantons with only one seat which use first-past-the-post voting.
  2. Voters can choose from party lists or create their own list. They can vote for individual candidates (up to twice per candidate) and can even write in candidates from other party lists.
  3. Voters can also give ā€œparty votesā€ by leaving lines blank on a ballot, which count towards that party’s total.
  4. Seats are allocated to parties based on the total number of votes they receive, including both candidate votes and party votes.
  5. Within each party, the candidates with the highest number of individual votes win the seats allocated to that party.
  6. Parties can form alliances called ā€œapparentmentsā€ to pool their votes. Sub-apparentments between lists of the same party are also possible.
  7. The Hagenbach-Bischoff system is used to calculate seat allocation. The last seat in each canton goes to the list or apparentment with the highest number of unused votes.

This system allows for a high degree of voter choice and aims to ensure that the composition of the National Council closely reflects the overall preferences of the electorate. It was introduced in 1918 during a time of political instability, replacing the previous majority system.It’s worth noting that the Council of States (upper house) uses different election methods, with most cantons using a majority system rather than proportional representation.

Yes.

It has its benefits but there are also downsides - you could have such a mismatch of candidates that it becomes impossible for them to agree on anything so effectively, nothing gets done.

Can we please stop pretending that Iran is even close to being a democracy? And I remember the ā€œmoderateā€ hopefuls from Chatami over Rohani to this guy. They only are figleafs to the IRGC and Khamenei terror kleptocracy.

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Linnea_uzh participated in a democratic election. The point is more that the Presidential candidates are heavily vetted and the ultimate victor doesn’t have that much power compared to the Supreme Leadership.

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Agree, as far as one can tell the voting is correctly handled with no impossibly high voter turnouts

= approved by dictator Khamenei

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I wonder whether the House of Commons will be a better place without Jacob Rees-Mogg setting an example to the rest of the Honourable members of the House ???

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Not important who won. They are all controlled by big money making vested interests anyhow.

No Fan off Rees-Mogg, but was surprised and impressed with how gracious he was in defeat.

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What? By quoting a Crack Pot he just shows his contempt for the process that dumped him in the trashbin.

May their hallowed halls never again be tarnished by this upper class twit.

75 Tories stood down prior to the General election including 22 current and former secretaries of state (Dominic Raab and Michael Gove) and former prime minister Theresa May. This was cowardly behaviour because they knew what was coming and wanted to be spared the humiliation of a defeat.

Rees-Mogg was probably deluded enough to think he could win, but even in defeat he is still a winner because now he can capitalise on the so called Brexit dividend and make plenty of money through his offshore investment fund ā€˜Somerset Capital Management’ (administered through Cayman Islands and Singapore)

Rees-Mogg – who when he was 12 and riding in a Rolls-Royce proudly declared his ambitions: ā€œI’ve always wanted to be richā€ – is reported to have received at least Ā£7.5m in dividends from Somerset since the EU referendum in 2016.

Well he was better than Truss, who kept everyone waiting because she didn’t want to go on stage, then left without saying a word.

Exactly, its a show election of approved candidate but within that people still have a choice. And it is possible to elect a more moderate candidate compared to the rest.

The new president pledged loyalty to the ayatollahs but still a ray of hope, no?

I read Linea’s posts with interest as I know she reads mine too. She’s very critical about our Eastern-European countries but of course she thinks very highly about Iran.
I’m amused.
Unfortunately I have a clue about what dictatorships mean and I don’t get why she doesn’t see or understand what is going on there.

You can say Gazans too voted Hamas, no? (brainwashed to vote them, so no, it doesn’t really count) I know this guy is not Hamas, but people don’t really have a choice there, they can vote for someone who was approved by the supreme leaders.
Some would call this show a choice but is it really…

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Which you called democratic. Why am I not surprised?

Good Lord komsomolez, did you not read what I wrote? I said the ā€˜limited’ election of presidential candidates was a democratic process, not the overall process itself.

Pathetic.

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