University teacher's salary

Hi everyone!

I am a PhD-student, researching children's literature, and this is my last semester. I am applying for a position at several universities, as a teacher, and with some of them its already stage 2, where we are discussing what we would expect from each other. And here comes my problem. I have to tell what are my expectations according the salary, and i dont know.

I was thinking of 7-10.000 CHF before the taxes for the full-time job. Is it a lot? I am a hardworking, well-skilled, 25yrs old girl, with professional experience of almost 5 years.

I would like to hear opinion of people who are smarter and more experienced than I am. What shall i ask for a part-time teacher position, a full-time teachers position and an assistants position. I am interested in german speaking part of Switzerland.

Also i was hesitating, if i should look for something related to the languages i speak (hungarian, russian, czech, ukrainian, english, basic german), but decided to go for this first.

Thank you for your time, reading this! Also i hope, i was able to express clearly, what i need.

Have a beautiful day!

I think your expectations are too high! PHD Student, so not qualified, only 5 years experience, 25 years old! 4000-5000 are my thoughs!

I've never heard about such position at university level. Do you mean position as a PhD student? If so, the salary is usually computed based on FNS rates ~50k/year before taxes: http://www.snf.ch/en/researchinFocus...d-in-2015.aspx . At some departments they offer extra contract as a teaching assistant while doing your PhD ~1500/month. Any other university position (postdoc, assistant professor, associate professor, full professor) would require a PhD degree!

Here you will find what ETH Zurich offers for Postdoc positions:

https://www.ethz.ch/en/the-eth-zuric...nd-salary.html

Last page: "Lohnansätze für wissenschaftliche Assistenz I und II und Postdoktorandinnen und Postdoktoranden"

Postdoktorand/in 86 300 - 90 600 - 95 000

So your estimates (CHF91k-130k) are quite close but a little higher than e.g., ETH's figures (CHF86k-95k).

Assuming it is a post doc lecturing position you are looking for!

i am guessing that salaries in STEM are a bit higher in general than in literature/languages

Hello, Everyone!

I am sorry, it is indeed closer to a post doctoral joboffer, where i would be teaching literature, and yes, for being a professor, i need to defend my PhD-thesis first.

Thank you for the replies!

ETH has highest salaries of Swiss universities as much as I know. Assistant prof salary at Lugano university is for example 120k, so 10k pre-tax sounds high.

I know also a person who was offered at Zurich university 40k for a postdoc (humanities). But also another one with 60k at Maths Zh uni.

Still I think 40k was a low offer and 80k sounds reasonable.

Also be aware that postdoc and professor salaries are not the only possible ones. ETH for example has a wide range of functions (for example senior researcher I, II) where salary is typically above postdoc salary and is highly negotiable, but also requires more experience.

I'm in an "assistant" (postdoc really) position fresh off a PhD and on ~7000/month so with experience I'd expect you could get more.

I have impression she counts her PhD towards her experience given that she is only 25 years old.

yes i do, because i was working full time paralel to my phd-studies, and during the 2years of my Masters degree, finally i can feel that it pays off.

Hi, thank you for the answer! can i ask what field you are in?

Maths ^.^

120k exactly

It is exactly half of what you need to live a decent life in Zurich. Accept no less than 210k.

why don't you ask them on what range does it usually fall? And from then on decide and negotiate.

You can't just demand a 10,000 chf per month, and I guess it's a bit too much.

You're a 0 short, that's 100,000 per month you should be asking. After all you have a PhD!! At the age of 25 no less..!!

sorry if i seemed bragging, didnt mean at all. But i am not sorry for being hardworking, motivated, and goalorientated, and that when others were partying hard and travelling a lot, i was studying and travelling only to libraries mostly.

You'll regret that one day, even if you end up earning 50k a month.

I miss the travelling part, which i am making up now, but the partyhard style never was mine. i just prefer other things. and also, i felt like these years i have to estabilish my future, so have chosen this way. i really will do my best to make it work in the long run.

You really are like a stuck record aren't you?