Uri Canton B Permit

I’m curious to see if anyone has recently gone through the B residence permit registration in Canton Uri, I was originally intending to relocate to Zurich however am now looking at more rural cantons. Can anyone shed some light on what documentation Uri specifically requires (Im EU Citizen but I’m bringing my spouse from the US)

The Kanton Uri website ( https://www.ur.ch/dienstleistungen/3605 ) says that you need the following (my quick translation):

3.1 Erstmalige Erteilung einer Kurzaufenthalts- und Aufenthaltsbewilligung (Ausweis L und B) (First issue of short stay and residence permits (Permit L and B)

 Gesuch A1 (Rückseite durch Arbeitgeber ausgefüllt und unterschrieben) (Application form A1 (reverse side completed and signed by employer)

 Kopie Arbeitsvertrag oder aktuelle Arbeitgeberbestätigung, woraus das Arbeitspensum sowie die Anstellungsdauer ersichtlich ist (Copy of employment contract or current confirmation by employer, showing the weekly hours of work and length of contract)

 Kopie des gültigen Reisepasses oder der gültigen Identitätskarte (Copy of valid passport or valid ID card)

We moved here from another canton and there didn't appear to be anything different to the registration process elsewhere.

The locals in rural Switzerland are very different to those in the large towns and cities in their acceptance of foreigners. I think whether you would be happy in rural cantons depends on the type of person you are - personally I wish I lived somewhere more "open" (but I'm an anxious unconfident type).

I have found rural areas of Central Switzerland to be extremely welcoming, you will enjoy it!

I completely missed this! Thank you very much for the information, interesting it doesn’t mention anything about police records, I’ve heard from a few Americans that some cantons require you to get both an FBI and a local police department record, but it seems to be hit and miss depending on the canton, my wife only holds a US passport so it might be worth getting just to be safe.

I grew up in rural Ireland and then the Derbyshire dales in England so I’m used to being in smaller places, although for the past 8 years I’ve been in Dallas so I’ll be readjusting. I’m looking at Altdorf specifically so any personal stories about how the locals are with foreigners would be appreciate, I’m sure it’s like the tiny villages in Ireland, you find both very reserved and also open people.

We live just outside Altdorf and we find the people in Uri very open and friendly. We've had numerous spontaneous conversations when out and about. I seem to recall reading that the Urners are open because they're always been on one of the main routes over the Alps (Gotthard), have had lots in immigrant workers to build the rail tunnels and plenty of emigration as well. Covid has made socialising difficult over the past couple of years so we haven't got to know as many people as we would like. I also wonder what it would be like here as a non-German-speaker. The locals are very willing to switch out of dialect when they realise we don't understand but I don't know how one would manage without any German.

You have to like mountains because the canton is essentially a long steep-sided valley (Reuss) running north-south from Altdorf to Göschenen and another higher valley running east-west from Andermatt to Realp. There are other valleys running off the Reuss valley. It can also feel a bit remote because main roads either run through tunnels (Axenstrasse, Seelisberg, Gotthard) or over passes (Klausen, Susten, Gotthard, Furka, Oberalp) the latter being closed for a good part of the year. The nearest city is Luzern, which is a 40min drive when the roads are clear.

Altdorf has a cinema, swimming pool and theatre but most sporting and cultural activities revolve around clubs and societies.

We've also lived in Obwalden, Schwyz and in rural Zürich. When looking for somewhere to settle only Obwalden, Nidwalden and Uri were real options.

Looking a bit further for the requirements for spouses from third countries, it does seem that Uri requires a lot of information, including marriage certificate, police records, social security receipt records, debt register, rental agreement, proof of health insurance, employment contract or proof of sufficient funds, proof of language ability to A1 level or registration on language course. https://www.ur.ch/_docn/184805/Merkb..._Juli_2019.pdf

Ive received a response from the Residence services in Uri and they’ve basically given me step-by-step instructions, I’m sharing them here incase anyone else needs help in the future:

Yes, your wife has to apply for and obtain the long-stay visa application (Visa D) BEFORE entering Germany.

The following procedure is recommended:

1. In July 2022, your wife will apply for a D visa at the Swiss embassy at her place of residence (it is advisable to give the address of your future employer in the canton of Uri as the correspondence address in Switzerland)

2. At the same time In July 2022 you submit the documents for your work permit (A1 and documents according to the information sheet) to the Uri Migration Department.

After receipt of visa application D, the Migration Department will request further documents for family reunification from you.

But if everything will be fine, a simultaneous flight to Switzerland for taking up residence should be possible from September.

Edit: I’m not sure why Google Translate picked up ‘Germany’ rather than ‘Uri’

How are you supposed to do point 2, before you get to Switzerland? Normally an EU citizen has to take their Passport into the Gemeinde in person with the application.

I wonder if the canton is confused by the fact OP is currently in the USA and has an American spouse? Or maybe they're offering an option that ticks all the legal boxes in order to allow both to move at the same time.

OP - where is the job located? In your post you seem to imply that the job is in Zurich but you want to live in Uri. In the translation from the canton that you shared, it would seem the canton thinks the job is in Uri. Might help to clear that up.

Unrelated to the permit - You talk a lot about your desire to be in a more rural place. Is your wife on board with this? How are her German skills? You don't have to tell us, but it's something to consider. Many "trailing spouses" find it hard to adjust when they're stuck in the middle of nowhere and don't speak the language. It can also be more challenging to find a job.

Employer based in Munich although I’ll be working fully remote, I am still very much on the fence about where exactly to reside, and I’m leaning towards Zurich being a better option for the very reasons you’ve mentioned, even if we use it as a stepping stone, it’ll likely be easier to adjust heading to Zurich first.

I am confused now though, if the steps in the email don’t make sense, what exactly would be the right way to go about this in order for us both to fly to Zurich together, obviously Step 1 (Have my US Spouse apply through the embassy here), but would I basically have to wait until we fly out to register in person with my EU Passport?

There isn’t one. The technically correct way to do things is that you come alone, get your permit, then you apply for your spouse to join you.

What a lot of people do however is both arrive as tourists, EU spouse applies for permit once here, then apply for family reunification for non-eu spouse and pray that they don’t have to go back home to get the D-visa (sometimes you can request to get it in another European country instead).

I think you should be asking whether YOU have a right to reside in Switzerland under these circumstances.

Ugh I’m not sure why I said Munich there, work contract is in Zurich, but I’ll only occasionally need to be in the physical building (I work in Financial Analysis with a finding that has a couple of remote workers in Switzerland, Italy, Sweden, Germany and the UK). I’m now thinking it might just be easier to go over to Zurich beforehand myself, get my permit and then have my wife apply from the US and follow.

This would definitely work but it could take a bit of time before you can be together, and could make booking her flights a pain because you wouldn't know when to book.

You get what you pay for with internet advice but here goes anyway:

Follow what you posted from Canton Zurich on your other thread . Enter together, register there within 14 days and sort any paperwork. Once here with permits in hand, you can always decide to switch cantons since you're an EU citizen.

Make sure your wife obtains a certified copy of her birth certificate before you come to Zurich. It has to be issued within the last 6 months. I had to have my mother get mine for me. Also, if your most recent driving licenses were issued within the last 3 years*, get copies of your driving records. It shows you've been driving longer and helps avoid being classified as under probation and higher risk for insurance.

* I think it's 3, could be 5 years. Either way I also needed my driving record when I came here because my most recent US license was too new.

3wishes this is great advice, this makes the most sense, I’ll be sure to get certified copies of all certificates and Apostilles, the only thing I’m weary about is when I get to immigration at the airport, if I mention my plans to stay, will this not cause an issue (the fact my wife wouldn’t have her visa until we register in person)...alternatively I could just say I’m there to visit but after going through the entire US immigration system, I’ve always seen this as a big no no.

You'd think I would remember exactly what we did but it's too long ago. I believe we entered through separate lines, him in the EU/Swiss and me in the non-EU. I don't recall them asking questions. If they did, I probably said I was on vacation. You're coming from a "safe" country so they don't really pay much attention, imo.

You’re EU so that won’t be a problem. Your wife, however, may have one if she doesn’t have the correct visa depending on which answer you give. Type C is for short stays of less than 90 days while a Type D is for longer as granted under family reunification.

You could always contact the embassy/consulate that deals with your part of the US and ask them if she can get a Type D because you are planning to move to Switzerland and would like to travel together. Since you’re an EU national with a job lined up already I can’t see why they’d refuse to grant her a Type D to travel on.

My wife lived in several places in Zürich canton that were rural/semi-rural but not too far from the city: Uster (reasonable sized town with good train connection, near lake); Fällenden (lakeside village with bus connection); Embrach (small town, very convenient for airport). Bülach is also convenient for airport but perhaps noisy. There are plenty of other similar places that give you the benefit of being near the city without being in it. Just check for good public transport connections.