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Hi, I recently purchased some really interesting bottles of french wine, ages are 1947, 1949, 1957 and 1964. Does anyone know where I can find out the quality and potential value of this Saint Emilion wine.
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Wines are as follows:
1947 Chassagne-Montrachet
1949 Chateau Gaubert
1957 Chateau Puy Blanque Grand Cru
1964 Tertre Du Moulin (Eschenauer)
Have the wines been stored properly and have certified proof of it? -Otherwise the value will probably be limited, and most likely they will not be good.
Didnt you check their potential value before buying them?
The first wine you list is the name of the village in Burgundy that the wine comes from. We need a producer.
Whilst these wine may have some interest value, I wouldn't expect too much from them either taste or price wise. Can you tell us how much you paid for them?
I paid 80 Francs for the 4 bottles as I liked the look of them and the wine was still up to the neck.
I hate to say it but have you tried Google?
Invite ME for tasting ! ....
and you have any doubts ? I would get into panic and high blood pressure just by thinking about handling these bottles
Stored properly ? All of them will assure you of that !
Certified proof ? French wines generally do NOT have certified proof of anything.
That sounds like very good value for the money. But as "Portsmouth" said, you ought to mention the full details on the labels like producer etc. This may not help ME, but it WILL help him, as he is a commercial in this business and knows these things.
Well the point is for old /2nd hand wine to have value at auction etc, you need to be able to proof that the wine has been stored in optimal conditions otherwise the seller will take a huge risk. So in other words if it has been in you living room wine rack for the last 50 years then you have a high risk it has turned in to sour port.
Merlot is the dominant grape in this area, followed by Cabernet Franc.
The soil conditions, climate makes it difficult for wine grapes to fully ripen in the Saint Emilion region. The wines take a little longer to mature then, and good vintages have a healthy aging potential.
Of the 4 you listed, the Chateaux Montrachet is from Burgundy, and wines from Montrachet are presently composed entirely of Chardonnay(is it a red?). In my eyes, the most valuable, if:
a) it is a Montrachet Chardonnay and from a reputable producer (wines from this region are some of the most expensive in the world (e.g. Domaine de la RomaneĢe - Conti )
b) if it's a red it might be a chardonnay blend
The other 3 wines don't quite set off any sirens, but hey for 80 Chufs they sound like a bargain.
For more information on Saint-Emilion Classifications, search here:
http://www.vins-saint-emilion.com/Anglais/index2.html
and here is a listing of the latest classifications:
http://www.vins-saint-emilion.com/An...%20-%20Ang.pdf
All said and done, enjoy the wines.
Thanks for all the useful/interesting posts - much appreciated!
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[QUOTE=Aquanexus;791869]Merlot is the dominant grape in this area, followed by Cabernet Franc.
If it's a white, it's a Chardonnay. If it's a red it's definitly a Pinot Noir. While it is famous region, the value may only be in the uniqueness of an un-corked old bottle, as whites do not age very well over long periods of time. What ages well, such as the Romanee Conti are the reds. But Romani Conti is a very small property, of which the soil there differs from the neigbors around it. It's also not the only good wine in the Cote d'Or either. My point is, from a bottle collectors' stand point the white may make a nice piece in a good cellar, the red, now that is something different; but still not any gaurantee of quality.
Aging does not gaurantee a good tasting wine. Some terrible years, like a 2004 Bordeaux is only palatable beginning in 2011. Of the, atleast 150 bottles I have tried at tastings and such, of 2004, I only found one drinkable 2 years ago. Some, like a 2000 are good to go within 2 years.
I am going to shut up as it's not your question.
What you need to do for the other bottles is do some research on the years they were grown, and the sort of weather-temperatures and rain downfall they had. Possibly make some comparisons with other vintages in the same region. I'll tell you for sure if you put those bottles on Ebay.fr (France), you could get from 70
You will make reasonable money selling to the great un-informed on Ricardo however drinking value of those bottles will likely be close to 0 - novelty value only. Maybe a nice present for someone born in the vintage year.
Not totally true as quality will determine the aging ability of a wine not the region. As you said Merlot is the predominant variety in this regions which is not so long lived as Cabernet Sauvignon. Some St Emilion will age 40 years others will be over the hill at 5.
He said it was Chassagne Montrachet not Chateau. Also the appellation laws do not allow red wine to be a blend of Chardonnay!! The only place that white wine is being blending with Chardonnay is in Champagne.
There are red Chassagne-Montrachets but you are right the majority are white from Chardonnay.
Quite right but don't expect too much...