What do you think of Peer-to-Peer downloads?

my mate uses Bitlord 1.1

he also heard a lot about uTorrent

I have BitTorrent, but I haven't figured out how the culprits publish their lists. Do they no longer use centralized indexes?

My mate is still stuck with Azureus, I don't know why he doesn't change...

google for "miami vice" torrent, for example

or surely the application has search facility built-in?

.....so my mate just told me. Just now. He's here

Thanks all for your collaboration. Glad to see so many upstanding people here. I've run out of rep points to vote with today. I'll try to remember tomorrow.

Just in case this ain't news, TSR started showing Season 1 on Monday in FR/EN, looks like two episodes each Monday night.

See http://www.tsrseries.ch

We watched the first two, lots of Swissliner-sized plot holes, but we'll be watching more for now...

I know this is offtopic on this thread - so let's not turn it into a big discussion - but I just wanted to say to everyone that I think Phos has been making some excellent posts on many threads, yet nobody has given him any reputation. He's busy giving you guys reputation, but if anyone deserves some reputation he does! Think about it people - not just on this thread but on others. For general discussion of reputation please do it on the reputation thread .

Anyway, back to P2P. My mate uses emule, he says it is often slow, but more useful for trying to get more obscure stuff that might not be shared so much anymore. He says he gets much faster results using torrents, but only for newer stuff which is still popular. For example when he was looking for big archives of games for the v3arcade system for vbulletin he didn't have any luck with torrents, but got something on emule after waiting about 1 week.

Whoops

Whoa! Lo and behold, I wake up to 3 green bars. Thanks ya'll!

All I can say is for this consumer I spend way more on music now than 5 years ago, because I can try before I buy.

When I buy, I buy the CD and not copy protected ones on principle. I never buy music by download anymore because of all the format and DRM hassles.. I want to be able to play the song on my PC, iPod, mp3 car compilation etc without endless DRM aggro.

I dont use P2P anymore because its too invasive (I dont like the firewall implications of open ports etc)

It really bugs me in CH that the choices for online music are so crap. When will a streaming service be available for specific artists a la Rhapsody. MSNMusic used to do one time plays for a few Rp but thats now a subscription and the catalogue and site are terrible. Musicmatch did, but they cancelled it. Im testing RealMusic now but thats pretty lame too

Daniel

You only have to open the specific ports for the application you are running - nothing else. The application has to have a way to be contacted from the outside. If you are really paranoid you can run something like vmware workstation or server and run your P2P applications from a virtual machine instead, but I probably wouldn't bother going to such lengths.

I'm glad to hear that you vote with your cash against DRM-based solutions and copy-protected CDs. I reacted by just boycotting them altogether.

As for streaming services, I'm pretty content with what I can find on Winamp. Probably is not the kind of service you are looking for , but for being free, having suc a wide range of music/stations, I find it good.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation has a whole section on their website dedicated to file-sharing issues.

http://www.eff.org/share/

This changes over time as new laws are amended, loopholes are patched, and deals worked out. Also, a lot of this pertains to US Laws.

Where exactly are we in regards to jurisdication? Are there treaties that bind to US Laws, or is it all based on Swiss legislation? Anyone out there understand Legalese?

P2P software does not need special ports opening. There are issues with XP permitting 10 unresolved connections and no more at any time. Using a virtual machine offers no extra layer of protection IMO - as long as you're sensible with what you download and have a decent virus-scanner, you should be ok.

DRM can be removed with AnyDVD. Slysoft has done a good job with that.

I enjoy Shoutcast, mainly because there are plugins for my devices. Specifically www.sky.fm/the80s

Will AnyDVD remove DRM from tunes downloaded from MSN Music too?

What I meant about P2P being invasive, was not just the port being open, but in combination with the client software. For example I installed the Sky online software, which is powered by Kontiki. After realizing it wouldnt download to a non UK IP I uninstalled it the same day. Six months later finally realized it was an unistalled kontiki P2P client software that was causing my XP to crash regularly, preventing backups running etc. The same concerns exist with RealNetworks (or did, I dont use that either). So if "reputable" companies are doing that stuff, I hate to think about what is floating around in open source P2P software code.

Behind my internet modem and behind my hardware firewall Im running Norton Antivirus, Zone Alarm Pro and RegRun (which monitors start up processes and registry changes). Its amazing how much software thinks its quite ok to squat on a chunk of your system resources without so much as a "by your leave".

to remove DRM from downloaded tunes.....

1. Burn audio CD of your tunes

2. Rip said audio CD and voila! I think you'll be happy....?

The problem of "bundling" is something which can apply to any piece of software you are given - nothing to do with p2p. Generally open source software is subject to higher levels of scrutiny since the code is "open". However sometimes when there is a company behind a piece of software (such as the old Bearshare) then they may be bundling stuff - conscious of their reputation this is often optional at install time. Certainly the more popular p2p applications used by the p2p community are clean. I can vouch for emule for example.

I am far more concerned about installing stuff from big companies - I've had my system totally wrecked after installing some camera drivers from Canon. Your story of software from Sky also illustrates that point.

Lob, appreciated that virtual machines don't increase security in this case - it was more an option along the lines of "If you don't understand then do this and it might make you feel better", I for one wouldn't bother with that either. Same deal for people running multiple firewalls, or firewalls behind a NAT router. You could explain to them that it is a waste of time, but if it makes them feel better....

I admit to running software firewalls internally. You're welcome to connect to my LAN (not WLAN of course) - but not welcome to snoop around

So you don't even trust the members of your own household. I like it Taking your "zero trust" security policy from work into your home?

my mother-in-law is another victim of the policy. No admin rights on her PC!!

By the way, my mate just told me that Share Reactor is back online. He said it is an excellent source of information and is now under new management.