I got back about 11ish tonight. Perhaps a bit later.
My customers are in america, and half my team in India, so I'm sort of expected to work in their hours, as well as ours.
Not seen my kids for two weeks. Never been without them for more than 1 night before.
It keeps me up.
Have a nightcap or herb tea, call yer wife for a sec, go to bed.
I am trying to push out some work still, but my head's asleep.
I don't think its that uncommon in Switzerland to work such long hours. My bf works late like that regularly, unfortunatly its just one of the trade offs of working here. You get the good pay, and great vacation time but have to work like a slave.
Unfortunately, you have children in the mix and that makes it all the harder. Maybe, its time to start looking for a job with more family friendly hours.. good luck
I don't get good pay, i can assure you. Any vacation is unpaid. I pay for all my travel and accomadation. Jobs...are hard to come by. Because of bankers.
You're a good girl, I can tell. You remind me of a mint boss I once had; I must visit her and her kids, actually.
What work are you pushing? Not music, is it...
Well then you are in the wrong line of work! That sounds like the worst job ever, why punish yourself for a job like that? There must be other jobs out there, I know there hard to come by (took me about a month to find a job..a crappy one but still) Im sure you could come up with something that works for you..life is far to short, and trust me its defo not worth missing out on your kids lives. There only young for a blink of an eye, and once you've missed out, you don't get a second chance.
whats wrong with the bankers?
I would start looking for other work, I don't get to see my kids much during the week as it is, I leave about 6-7am before they get up and only have an hour or two with them when I get home about 6-7pm if I'm on time and I already feel like I'm missing out on time with them. I travel an hour and a half to work each day, do my 9 hours, it's impossible to make my day shorter. If I do have to carry on I try sometimes to bring the work back with me and carry on when the kids are in bed.
I take it you have already looked into working remotely, is working from home an option at all?
What, all of them?
And none of those consumers and businesses who fueled the credit bubble by sucking up the cheap loans they couldn't afford didn't know what they were doing? They were all tricked into wanting more; bigger; better?
Lack of jobs is a problem. Some bankers played their part. But stick with the "bankers did it" mantra and we've learnt nothing.
I stop myself working at 9pm if I can.
I just packed in my job as I was 4-5 months of travel/work and then split shifts here in Switzerland. At work at 7 am work,till 1:30-2:30, go home for 2-3 hours back to work by 5:30 and generally not home before 9pm. 3 years of that schedule and I was burnt like toast.
Not sure what I want to do now but I am sure what I DON"T want to do and that's another work schedule like that no matter the pay.
Yeah, three kids too and it is going by in a blink of the eye and thank God I've awoken in time to see it and not be a part-time spectator. Stuff the high salary.I want to LIVE!
Eh? According to Swiss law you're supposed to have four weeks minimum.
Are you self-employed or something?
One of the reasons I'm here in CH is well organized working environment and supposedly good planning do that one doesn't have to work overtime. Usually work normal hours and sometimes stay in the office till 19h00 but very seldom though. I like my job and I wouldn't wanna trade it for anything else. Even if they paid me 1k a month more, I would reconsider it due to balanced working environment and plenty of vacation time.
When the clock strikes 4 pm I am out the door, home at 4.15pm. Especially nice in summer when I go straight to the lake for swimming and so on.
My philosophy has always been that if the work cannot be finished during normal working hours (7am-4pm for me) the company should hire more people. Why should I work longer and in effect accept a lower hourly salary just because they are too stingy to hire an extra person ?
Well I hope you are well paid and by the hour if you are working these long hours.
I leave the office between 7 and 10 on a normal day.
Just don't ask when I get in - consultants work LONG hours
When I'm in the office, I get in about 8:30am to 9am, and leave at 5pm or 5:30pm. Unless I foolishly answer my phone, or check my emails just before I want to leave and have to deal with another problem.
I also work from home a few days a week - start early, finish early. If I'm working very early, sometimes my daughter brings me a cup of tea as she gets ready for school.
Quite right. Normal work should be done within the working hours. Occasional intensive times require longer hours, but it shouldn't be like that all the time. One guy I know used to work very long hours - until a security guard pointed out to him that he (the guard) had a higher hourly rate!
Well I'm my own boss and work from home a lot. However if a client want's me to call them I never refuse, not at 3pm on a Sunday, not at 3am on a Tuesday. So I sort of work constantly.
This harkens to the Going to Work When Sick thread, talking about working ourselves to the bone. I have no problem putting in extra hours, but exploitation equates to more than a few hours here and there.
That is absolute rubbish. Employment conditions stipulate working hours. Of course there are exceptions, a project deadline, etc., but these are exceptions. If you are self employed, then of course you set your own hours.
Looks like people on this EF work alot than average Swiss? honestly I felt that in CH we have less pressure at work than , for example in NY, London or HK...? Plus we spend less time on the commuting.
I imagine this has to do with a lot of EF'ers working for "global" or "multi-national" companies. (Read: companies that follow a similar corporate scheme to many American corporations... work em til they drop for as many hours and as little pay as possible, profit is king.)