we tried our 3 boys in them (pull ups), but they made them confortable knowing they could still pee anytime they wanted.. not much training really. But these were always with the other ones in the stores.
no, I want cotton ones (cloth) not 'throw away' ones.
as you say, 'pull ups' which are just glorified 'disposable' nappies are not helpful for toilet-training small children...they are just marketing hype...
I'd like to source them locally, but if not then I'm going to have to use amazon, I think...
Do you need them in this case so the toddler can "feel" the wetness a nappy would otherwise absorb?
A couple of mums I know put undies on underneath the nappy so it felt soggy after the child had done a wee.
We were fortunate in that we just went straight from nappy to underpants fairly smoothly but I can see how the soggy-pants method would work .
You can pick up a bundle of toddler knickers and undies in Coop for cheap and then just combine them with the pull-ups if you have major problems finding the trainer pants you are looking for.
I have one from Australia, they are underpants that absorb, terry toweling material. I have never seen them here and was looking for them everywhere. Here in winter you can use underpants with tights on top, they soak up most of the mess. You can also get nappy liners that you can use with underpants for extra absorption.
What you can get here is special underpants that will take a cloth nappy underneath. They are a little bigger around the bottom and are in toddler size eg only 86/92, but they don't offer much extra absorption unless you use the cloth nappy too. They have just one extra layer of material around the front and back in the center. C&A sell them. They look exactly like the ones on Amazon that you posted. They also come in dark colours :-)
I agree that using pull-ups doesn't help with toilet training. Kids should be either in a nappy or without a nappy. Pull-ups are just plain confusing. I just took away the nappy altogether and used underpants day and night. Total day time #1 accidents was 3 before he learned to stop it.
The thick underwear is just going to be a lot of washing unless the child is really ready. It is not going to keep pee from the rest of the clothing so the child will need a change of clothes. If the idea is that the child is wearing long pants without buttons or zippers and along with underwear they can just pull down themselves, I see it. But otherwise I think keeping a diaper on until they are ready for real underwear is the best solution.
They are usually only 'useful' for about 3-4 weeks until the child (and parent/teacher) gets the hang of the child's normal routine, and the child becomes aware that using the toilet is less hassle than peeing in their pants...
If it was my child at home, normal undies would be fine, but for hygiene reasons in a group-care setting (preschool) we need to 'contain' the wet rather than have it spread onto the floor...
The ones I have are double layered with a hidden plastic layer inside - they do give you about 10-20 seconds before the entire clothing/outfit is soaked, so if you are attentive, you can get the child to the toilet before it proceeds further... AND the child is able to manage them up/down along with their leggings, as you say ....I can tell you have experience in these things....
Ah, I get the message now. The 'training underpants' are used to train the parents!
Funny how children differ so much from one another. Our two just didn't care whether their nappies were wet or not! And those were the days when nappies were really wet!
I bought some pull-ups for the granddaughter and I still have them. All of them! She just decided one day out of the blue that she might as well use the toilet like the bigger children she played with - and she did.
I'm sorry if I repeat stuff since I have no time to actually go through the entire thread. Cloth training pants were indispensable for us, we got ours in Mothercare. The wettness is a huge factor in potty training, it slowly reteaches kids what they used to know before we pamper trained them. They come in 3 dif sizes, I will be home shortly, let me know if you want me to pick some up for your kiddo (they do pink and blue, maybe simple white ones too). They are like normal panties with a padded crotch area, have about 1/3inch mesh layer to soak up (frote - the "towel" weive on top, google mothercare, I am sure they list them, there is a plastic layer too). You can also knit "soakers", works the same way (but without the plastic), and they are quick to make. PM if you need.
The normal pullups are convenient, plus easy to pull down for the kiddo, but generally does not really teach anything since they are way too absorbent. We left those for nights or drives we needed to stay dry. There are not so absorbent pull ups, Huggies, basically works the same way as those training pants, since they only hold a tiny bit and the kid knows when they did their "business". But still cloth is much nicer for the young butts then a slippery wet plastic.
I think this is the key issue here. Our paediatrician told us that a child cannot be "trained" out of nappies; they have to be physically capable of knowing when they want to wee. That's probably why we had success and a smooth transition (plus a bit of expert help from the ladies at his nursery). I could tell my son wasn't ready to leave his nappies behind until he started saying first "I just did a wee" then a couple of weeks later "a wee is coming". That was the big neon sign for me to get his shiny new Bob the Builder undies out of the drawer and adorn his new potty with a whole packet of stickers.
Yeah, at our nursery they sent a letter out to all parents that they do not train children to go potty
The porry is available for all and once the kids ask to use it/show curiosity they are at hand to help them but in no way go about training them.
Too early for us as our little one is only 15 months but the current advice I am reading is to wait until they are ready and average of that is over 2.
They sell washable, multilayer training pants by ImseVimse on www.jubilane.ch . They are 21.50 CHF each (yikes) but I can say that I've ordered other things from this website (like the swim nappy from ImseVimse) and they're fast and reliable-delivery is generally within the week. Also, the swim nappies I've ordered were as described for size, etc. and pretty good.
Oh- and when I switch from english to german on their website, apparently the word you're looking for is "Trainingshose."