This might be a tod off topic.......
This weekend the weather app in my android HTC Legend said "Rain & snow" for ZH....
Anyone experienced the same?
Mine just showed rain, and rain it did.
My HTC Desire also said Rain and Snow. Very strange...
Since I saw quite a few posts on this, I thought it may be helpful for someone to know that I just found my HTC desire with which I am playing right now.
I went to the new Swisscom shop that opened today in Zurich stadelhofen... and they have it!!!
many thanks!
bought one at Mediamarkt in Basel last week
ok, is there anyone who works at Orange, and can tell what is going on with them? i would think the iPhone rush is over, and finally they can get their online services up... rude boys ;-) they don't really have the power to handle the number of requests that can be put by a 7-million country?
i called them to get an offer last week, for renewal of my contract, too. luckily, i could get to the support, after some time of silent search, he said he couldn't find the list of all phone offers online, and suggested to post me the special list of offers according to my data. so, i accepted. he said i'll receive the post in two days, and kindly gifted me with free orange box minutes due to the wait, which was already part of 'my offers' when i was able to check some time ago
then, i receive the post in 5-6 days, and open the letter to see a message telling me to check my online account for specialized offers ) of course, the 'my account' is not still available...
anyways.. i was considering iphone and htc desire, and iphone delivery times are up to 10 weeks now, and the desire doesn't seem to have a warning for such a long time. does anyone know about their offers for existing customers? is it worth it? would they sell machines with the updated software? (it will be sim locked, and i feel like i read that is a problem for updates)
and one more q: htc desire doesn't have the front facing cam, does it?
Nobody knows when the next iphone 4 delivery will be. I read an article on baz.ch yesterday where some anonymous reseller said they don't know if they get any before Christmas. I'm not really sure why anyone is still bothering with the iPhone, tbh - the phone has a rather low customer-satisfaction index and Apple has rapidly fallen out of favor of the general population.
As for the Desire: don't get a branded / locked device. It's completely unclear if and when those will get the new firmware. It's completely possible that Orange Switzerland doesn't get it at all. Just get an unlocked phone from Digitec or mediamarkt. They'll also be able to extend your existing Orange plan.
Do you have to stick with Orange? Why not switch to Sunrise? They have a much better network and (for most people) lower prices.
Anyway - the Desire doesn't have a front- facing camera. But trust me: you don't need that. Nobody uses video chat anyway. First of all: who are you going to use it with? And then: the iphone's video capabilities are limited. It only works over wifi and will still cost you a phone-call because the video session is initiated over a normal phone line.
you're in the same situation as me then.
My contract expired at the end of July, for 4-6 weeks before they'd been calling my landline promising offers but always when I was away. When I finally got to their site there was a bunch of phones offered to me, obviously the iPhone 4 but the Desire was not one of them. Is the Desire being offered to anyone for a contract renewal with Orange? How personal are those personal offers?
And I can't login to the site either.
The devil makes work for idle hands though. I worked out that in two years with the iPhone I'd not paid one single franc over the contract subscription to Orange for Swiss usage, I've never used more data, calls or SMS than the contract. The only time I've paid them is for roaming data, calls or SMS mostly in the UK and France.
So, if i could find a Desire to buy sim-free and use a pay-as-you-go card in the UK I'd personally save a lot of money compared to paying Orange for a sim locked phone of any description. Orange rolled my contract over automatically but it's only twelve months so I can ditch them next year and use Sunrise which would be cheaper for me.
And as dawiz mentions, there's some other good reasons to look at unlocked, unbranded android phones.
Which means Orange have screwed up, had they offered me a contract Desire I'd have taken it, by screwing the website up and not offering the phone I want I went away and looked at my bills and came up with a better, cheaper option. You would think if any serious number of people did the same they're going to notice it on their bottom line.
One of the comments on the Orange website was that Google Talk couldn't be installed on the Orange-branded Desire. By going via Digitec this problem can be avoided. What's more, I believe it's even cheaper.
I got a Desire from Orange recently and I am in <3 with it! Even though it doesn't have the latest update it works very well for me. No, it does not have a front facing camera. The camera that it does have takes pretty good pics outside (not so much inside, but my hands shake so that could be part of the problem).
I personally believe that the Iphone 4 is still a very good phone despite the whole reception issue, but it just isn't "the best" anymore like Iphones used to be (or perhaps never were, but that was the perception of many people I think). Either one would probably be a great phone.
As far as personalization goes, the Desire is so much fun with that! All of the little things you can do with it are just absolutely incredible and the screen is amazingly beautiful.
Just my two cents, for what it's worth
Attaching a pic I took with my phone...
well, i am considering the touchscreen phones, only because it is the contract renewal offer time, and it seems fun to pinch and roll the screen with a finger... normally, an alarm clock, calendar with reminders and a watch are enough for me mostly (actually, it would more profitable to go prepaid for me, but laziness, i guess )
buying a new toy once in a while is fun, and it will be fun if it is incorporated into an offer, for which i will continue paying; that's why i am considering this. normally, my renewal period is around may, but the offer is online nowadays, so i want to check out for a profitable option. i believe switching to another network will require a few months' time if not only two months before the end of current contract.
anyways, in the few times i cold see a list of offers on my account, i also couldn't see htc desire, that's why i called them for a price, and i hope they've updated it, so if i can log in to my offers i might see something. will let you know if i get a number...
hmm, with my 20 CHF/month subscription, it seems like buying a non-SIMLock version would be better. The offer is almost useless:
HTC Desire Brown HSPA OCH Simlock
Simply stunning
more details
Price without subscription CHF 699.-
CHF 499.- (subscription extended by 12 months) By renewing your contract online, you get an additional discount of CHF 20.- on your next bill
CHF 349.- (subscription extended by 24 months) By renewing your contract online, you get an additional discount of CHF 40.- on your next bill
OK, that confirms what I thought, people are being given different options for their renewals. I'm not being offered the Desire at any price by Orange. I think that sucks
There's no way it's worth 499 for 12 months though, you can buy the handset (if it ever becomes available) for around 550 from other places.
I just called them to share my frustration and cancel my contract. Since they'd rolled it over it won't terminate until July 30 2011 but I wanted to be sure I didn't miss the deadline next year and got it in writing way ahead of time.
This morning, I finally logged in and accepted the offer off the internet for a 10.chf monthly reduction, I've been trying to login since July 30th to do that. So Orange then tried to claim that my contract couldn't be ended until August 11th 2011. After I shouted at them they agreed that was unreasonable as their systems hadn't been working since July 30th so they made that the date and honored the 10 chf reduction.
I know it's only a fortnight difference but FFS, it's not my fault their systems have been unreachable for two weeks. Not only that, but I specifically asked them on the phone last week if accepting an offer implied acceptance of a new contract and they said no.
Good job that Comco stomped on their merger plans :
http://www.swisster.ch/news/business...se-merger.html
If this is how they act in a three way market it's hard to imagine how bad they'd be in a two way market. Although I don't see why we must have competition for mobiles and not supermarkets but that's a whole other story
I bought the Desire at O2 in the UK after asking if it was unlocked. They said it's no problem to put another SIM in. Now in Switzerland, guess what, that doesn't work. The phone is great, I didn't like the new iPhone 4 although I had every iPhone beforehand. The glassy back and the form just feels awful in my hands. The HTC Desire is much more soft touch, which sold it to me. A bit annoyed about the apps and all that. I have like three apps for my Gmail account on there and about 5 different clocks. Haven't got a clue why they put so much crap on it.
I could do with Skype though. I saw it installed on a Desire in the UK but can't find it in the Marketplace. It was called "Skype (beta)".
But more importantly, does anyone have any ideas of where to get it unlocked in Zurich ?
Just look for an app called Nimbuzz in the market - that one offers Skype calling + their own voice over ip service which works equally well.
As for the unlocking: not sure the Desire can be unlocked by anyone except the phone vendor. You might want to call O2 and ask them to do it. AFAIK they will do it if you can prove hat you live in Switzerland.
One question however: how do you know it's locked? Does it tell you the SIM doesn't work or is the internet simply not working? If the latter is the case, you might simply have to add your Swiss provider's APN in the network settings.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
It seems like the new HTC Desire HD may be released in Oct of this year. This could be the handset I've been waiting for and maybe enough to sway me from getting an iPhone 4.
Just when I had about made up my mind...