Wine Davos style. Half full or half empty?

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You just went to the wrong hood. Next time bring a marker and draw the line at 326 ml, that will show them how wine is consumed the australian aka right way.

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Also I have seen in Gault Millau rated restaurants; probably depends on the number of points. The nearest one to me has 16 points & so probably not has marked glasses but not visted for a couple of months; plan to visit in March & will report back.

I have been in Gault Millau rated restaurants with under 5 ponts & some of them do have marked glasses.

However if they bring the wine in a carafe then you know you got what you ordered & markings on the glass are not relevant

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Now you know why they have only 5 points and not fifteen.

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You never fill a wine glass further than to the height where it has the widest circumference. Glasses like the one the picture are designed to hold 10cl of wine, if filled up to its widest point. Thus there is no measuring line needed.

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So you go to one of the most expensive ski resorts in Switzerland and expect to get cheap plonk and then complain by comparing the price to pub prices in Oz. Last time I was in Oz in a wine bar admitted they put a little more wine in the glass but it was easily more then 10CHF for a glass

Still seems incredible that someone would go to Davos and then wonder why the restaurants are expensive. It fidnt become one of the top resorts by being a cheap place. Austria definetely is better at the overall experience for skiers in this regard and why many people go there, but to think skiing Davos is a ripoff just highlights how ignorant some people can be.

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Yes as beer consumption is on the decline they also make some of the best wines in the world easily beating the French

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Tip included. Apparently.

What dud maths? You got it right:

That would be the family deal glass of wine.

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In which part of Australia? I don't recall ever being served a glass containing 326 mL of wine (why that odd size, anyway? It doesn't translate to anything in fl. oz) -- especially white wine. Most white wine glasses, even filled to the brim, would have a total capacity less than that.

According to the Australian Government , the average serving of wine is 150 mL, with glass sizes ranging from 120-180 mL.

In most states of Australia, the blood alcohol concentration (BAC) limit for driving is 0.05 g/100 mL. On average, men reach this limit (or stay just under it) by drinking two "standard drinks" in the first hour of a session and one per hour thereafter (on average, for women it's one "standard drink" per hour).

One "standard drink" contains 10 g of alcohol. You can calculate the number of standard drinks in an alcoholic beverage as follows:

Volume of alcoholic beverage in litres multiplied by the percentage of alcohol volume multiplied by 0.789 (note, 0.789 is the specific gravity of ethyl alcohol).

Many Australian wines have around 14% alcohol content. So, 100 mL of an Aussie chardonnay or shiraz yields 0.1 x 14 x 0.789 = 1.1 standard drinks. A 326 mL glass of the same wine would be 3.6 standard drinks. With the over-zealous enforcement of the 0.05 blood alcohol limit for driving and the responsibility placed on licensed premises to avoid drunkenness, I respectfully suggest that finding 326 mL pours of wine in any Australian pub or restaurant would be Mission Impossible, unless patrons typically take four hours to drink one glass of wine.

What you will find in Australian pubs is 326 mL glasses such as these -- but that's the total volume of the glass. The glass will only be filled to the measure line, which is much less than the total volume. I don't know what the standard measure is, but I'd guess around 150 mL.

ETA: DrinkWise Australia says that the standard serving of wine in Australia is 100 mL (approx. one standard drink), and the average serving in a restaurant is 150 mL.

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I am not sure if this is sarcasm or what you believe.

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Or so you say...

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"a glass" means one deciliter, "änn Zweier" means two deciliters

and I am absolutely sure that the CHF 8.-- were specified as the price for ONE DECIL.

wine glasses marked ? Yes, often they are. But there also is the way to pour the wine into a marked glass and then put it into a nice wine glass which is not marked.

"Espresso on the slopes above Davos" ? You can get respectable coffee in both Davos and Klosters, but hardly on the slopes ! And in Graubünden, you ask for two Deciliters of Veltliner or Chianti or Primitivo or Montepulciano "änn Zweier ....." for CHF 9.-- .

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Not to mention 326ml would mean half a bottle of wine poured into a single glass since the standard bottle is 750ml.

Seems the OP compared a home serving to being annoyed at the cost of skiing in Davos in the WEF week.

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When we first came to Basel we saw the wine price (7.40 CHF) and were surprised. "It's not that expensive, you can pay £3 a glass in the UK" (fx was 2.2 at the time).

Then the glass arrived...

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Beer and water/soft drink glasses are almost always marked, the same goes for cheap wine glasses. Nicer, more expensive glasses are usually unmarked IME.

Often they some measuring device attached to the bottle.

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If you are after ski and booze, try Club Med.

You can ski St Moritz, Wengen and Villars in Switzerland. There is free unlimited wine with the 3 meals a day that are all included. Yes, wine and beer are accessible at breakfast for the needy.

These days Club Med also offers free bar drinks too. I can never understand why anyone would go anywhere else...

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I recently stayed in a hotel in France which included an amenity that they had labeled the "Honor Bar." During cocktail hour each day, a full bar setup was laid out in a common area of the hotel, at which one could enjoy wine by the glass as well as mixed drinks that one poured/mixed himself. A card was subsequently handed in at the nearby front desk showing the room number and the number/type of drinks consumed.

It was explained, "It is meant for you to simply pour a drink for yourself as you would at home." I was surprised to find this concept in Europe; is it common and have others run across it?

I thought about telling the man at reception that I could not truly feel "at home" unless I was able to pour more than half a bottle of red into a giant plastic tumbler with Lightning McQueen's picture on the side, but I refrained.

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My bad re the 326ml. It is the volume of the whole glass. The line mark is at about 150ml; past the widest point of the glass, but because they are not tight arses they normally go past it.

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In your dreams

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Experienced it last year at this place http://www.skene-house.co.uk/whitehall_suites

Quite a decent system.

Other than that have not found the same in Europe - instead have found some hotel's "executive" or "club" lounges offer complimentary (although of course you pay more for the room or have status with the hotel's loyalty scheme) alcohol more commonly than in the US.

In the US have found cheap beer and wine offered for free during 'managers social events' at hotels geared more to long-stay resident such as Staybridge Suites.

As far as the OP is concerned I too find Swiss wine measures rather parsimonious. Barely equates to a tasting measure in civilised places! Although I don't actually care to have too much wine in the glass I do object to being charged 7.5x the 100ml for a bottle - a practice that most certainly is not the norm elsewhere. I guess in this rather reserved society no one is expected to drink more than 200ml here lest they open up and expose their inner selves?! Except of course during officially sanctioned events such as fasnacht and chilbi when public inebriation seems mandatory.

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Seems some are confused about an observation on the size of a glass of wine, and how it is measured in comparison to other countries with a comment on the cost of skiing in Davos. The skiing in Davos is good. Not competitively priced but much of their clientele aren't fussed which is fine. The place was generally full of pretentious precious types anyway.

Everyone in the party was agog at the miniaturization of the serves of wine and how the were poured. No measuring method was observed, the guy was simply pouring a splash from bottle into the glass. Anyway, their penny pinching only robbed themselves because we didn't order our traditional 5 glasses each and didn't return there for the week. Bad business practice and sadly typically Swiss, which is why our friends do not want to ski or travel much in Switzerland.