Wine Davos style. Half full or half empty?

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This is what we received when we ordered a "glass" of white wine at Hanggis Restaurant in Davos. We estimated it to be about 100ml?

Cheapest wine on the list at around 8CHF from memory and they couldn't even be arsed to half fill it.

Begs the question as to why the Swiss do not have a line marked on the glass. In Australia wine glasses are marked at 326ml and woe betide any establishment that attempts to dud their punters with a short pour.

We were also Switzerlanded when pillaged 4.50CHF for a foul espresso on the slopes above Davos. Another reason not to ski in Switzerland.

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4.50 for a coffee and that's reason enough not to go skiing in Switzerland ???

Might I just remind you that......

Never mind, all the more space for me...

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Well, a wine glass should not be filled more than 1/3 for different reasons: white wine is supposed to stay cool (hence the smaller and slimmer glass) and red wine is supposed to develop its bouquet. Had you ordered 200 ml you still would not have all filled in one glass. That's indeed style, but not only in Davos.

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They do have glasses with markings on them, normally. Your's didn't. Isn't the World Economic forum going on now, or has it finished? In any time of high tourist or influx of people, what am I saying, this is Davos. In Wädenswil I paid that amount for the same glass of wine, maybe a finger nail more in liquid.

Note: if you are looking for frugal ski trips to Switzerland, DAVOS is not that place. On another note, how were the slopes? Did the snow seem not as worth it when the glass was less then half full?

Also, they make more money on wine by the glass then by the bottle. If there are a few in your group why not buy a whole bottle next time and fill it to the rim?

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Australians drink wine?

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Standard measure of wine in Switzerland is 100ml (1 "deci"). You can always order 2 or 3 at a time. Yes food and drink out in Switzerland is expensive.

I now find the sight of a 250ml glass of wine in the UK a bit nauseating. Not to say I dont eventually get through that quantity.

Just a cultural difference, just like you Ozzies drink beer in tiny glasses?

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Do we ever !!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_wine

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100 mL is one deci (1 dL) ... just for clarity ... if you order 10 decis you'll get a litre of wine!

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We were there pre-Davos. We had two days at Parsenn - Day 1 was great. Day 2 saw some warm sun and crowds reduce the sunny pistes to rubble by midday. Day 3 we went to Jakobshorn which was very icy.

Overall a good ski area but Italy, France and Austria have better atmosphere for mine, as good if not better skiing and are reasonably priced in comparison. Italy and Austria in particular seem far friendlier and happier to brim your glass. The fact that they don't overtly treat you like a cash cow leads to a more relaxed and enjoyable ski trip. It is not like they can't afford to fill your glass in Davos is it? Cost them nothing in the scheme of things.

We have not seen a marked glass in Switzerland.

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They can't be serious. Ridiculously small and how do you know you if you are even getting that much if there is no marker?

For the bottom of the line house white that works out at 80CHF per litre.

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Neither have I ever seen a marked wine glass anywhere.

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Hugh? Is it just a Zurich thing then? I have not once seen an unmarked glass, and I thought I "got out". Hmmm.

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At 7.5deci per bottle, 8*7.5=62chf. Usually there is little or no markup vs the full bottle price (you decide the logic of that) of the same wine.

Most glasses are marked or they use a measure at the bar or a carafe at the table.

In more expensive places they may pour by eye but are generally a bit more generous.

Blind measures do suggest a bit of rip off joint. But hey its Davos.

We found wine by the glass in Oz and NZ surprisingly expensive.

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Yes. But in comes in tetra packs..... nuff said.

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Thanks for correcting my dud math. Forgot to factor in bottle size. Doh.

Yes, the days of Oz being cheap are gone for now but as the dollar weakens pries will fall in comparison. However, if you pay 8chf/aud for a glass of wine in Oz there is no way known you will be poured 100ml. You would get double that at least.

The week before we skied at ITA and were getting a 500ml carafe of similar quality for the same price.

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I must say I haven't had cause to look until this abomination was served us. I think in CH the beer glasses are nearly always marked and a few times we have been short poured but we have let it ride.

Not sure with wine glasses, but will observe from now on, nor have I noticed how the Swiss measure out their mixed spirits.

Happy to say that France and Italy have been very liberal on our recent travels. The Eyeties also happy to give you a glass of Limoncello or Genapi on the house which is always welcome.

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I have seen marked wine glasses everywhere; you do have to rotate the glass to see it if the (usually small) marking is on the other side.

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Maybe not in Gault Millau rated restaurants. And usually they come and have the wine in a carafe that has a marking and pour it from there in your glass.

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My recommendation is to always order a "zweierly" or zwei deci (2 Dl) then they bring it in a little wine carafe & you are sure you got what you ordered.

Those little carafes always remind me of what they give you in English hospitals when you go in to get your waterworks tested.

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And a free pillow with every purchase, winning !!!