Citation summons

Got this in the post this morning from the justice of the peace and have no idea what it’s about or why it would have anything to do with us.

"vous etes cites à comparaitre à la seance fixee le

Objet de la seance
Analyse de la situation
Eventuelle institution d’une mesure de protection de l’adulte

Votre presence est obligatoire. Seuls de serieux motifs permettraient de changer de date."

"you are summoned to appear at the meeting scheduled on

Purpose of the meeting
Analysis of the situation
Possible institution of an adult protection measure

Your attendance is compulsory. Only serious reasons will allow you to change the date."

Have e-mailed them to ask and also to let them know we can’t attend as we’re not going to be in Switzerland on the date of the meeting, but we’re just confused about what the heck this is about. Can anyone shed any light?

WTAF?

Protection de l’adulte means someone is not able to deal anymore with life in full capacity. So, some tasks are delegated to another adult to make the life of the protected person easier and safer.

More info here from the Guide Social Romand: Mesures de protection de l'adulte | GSR

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Yeah, that was my guess/understanding, but neither of us are incapacitated in that respect. We have some health issues, but none of them are mental capacity ones, just physical. It’s just weird. I wonder if they’re summoning the wrong people.

Also no relatives here in Switzerland so no idea who’d think we needed a guardian to look after us to start with. Unless it’s our neighbour we had problems with in the past trying it on with the court again.

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Since we had no reply to the e-mail I sent we’re off down to the Justice of the Peace’s office to find out what this is all about.

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Could someone else be incapacitated and you were asked to be their Guardian?

No, as we don’t really know anyone here who’s likely to want us to do that.

Seems it’s our neighbour who we’ve had a couple of run ins with before. Just back from the Justice’s office so need to look at the paperwork they gave us, but seems pretty spurious from the quick read I just did.

Anyway, was able to postpone the date since we’re not going to be in Switzerland next week.

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Is this the “no access to my roof” neighbour? What a tosser.

Yes, that’s the one.

I suppose it’s nice that they show concern for us though.

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This is top passive-aggressiveness. I’m impressed.

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Are they showing concern though or just stirring the shit?

Maybe they’re trying to prove that you’re both incapable of making rational decisions or something in order to get his own way over something?

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Really don’t know. It seems it was the daughter who contacted the Justice’s office.

We’ll work on our response to their allegations and send it off before we go to the UK. Then when we get back will have the delayed meeting at some point; no new date for that yet.

I’d find a lawyer. This could have some unforeseen consequences.

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It could also be trying to force a situation where MF has to shell out costs due to the neighbour’s bloody-mindedness.

Which are what?

We don’t open the shutters on our windows at all.

If we do, the windows are dirty.

Seen in a bedroom that we have stuff piled up to the ceiling.

Haven’t mown the lawn for several years.

Roof tiles broken and nothing done for several years even though they tried to tell us about them.

It’s true we don’t open a couple of shutters nor have I cleaned any windows as I don’t think they need it.

They can’t see into any bedroom so no idea where that came from.

I have managed to mow the lawn once each year lately, but that’s all so yes, it’s gotten worse and worse. Which is why I finally called in a gardening firm last year to sort it all out and make us tidy again; they do regular maintenance on it for us now.

I remember years ago they tried to tell us something, but with our lack of French we didn’t understand what they were saying. It was only when we saw water running down the walls inside the house that we realised something was wrong and got it dealt with no thanks to the neighbour who refused to allow the roofing company on to their property to deal with it so they had to make additional arrangements so the job took longer than needed and cost us more.

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@Phil_MCR no autoplay for GIFs? I’ll read about that later.

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What’s the arrangement? Do you own a house, part of it (sometimes called a row house), or a ground floor apartment?

Well, anyway thanks, if the Swiss law can force on you how you keep up the property I’m off, glad that I haven’t bought anything here yet.

Well, if you read carefully between the lines, the property seems to be somewhat neglected: lawn not maintained for years, dirty windows and shades and broken roof tiles, leaking water. If this is what you see daily from your window across the street, I’d also certainly not like it and I’d certainly try talking to the owners. Also, the fact that said roof tiles could have been fixed by stepping on the property of the neighbours tells us both properties are either very close or even physically attached.

It seems a discussion has been going on for years without much change, so honestly as much as i feel for OP, i kinda get the frustration of the neighbour

We do own our house and yes they are close together with the neighbour, touching in places. Ours is on the left, theirs on the right.

Let me be clear though, the neighbour hasn’t talked to us about any of this. As I said they once tried years ago, but that’s it. Apart from saying hello when we see each other in passing there’s been no attempt to talk to us.

Frustration is one thing and everyone is entitled to their feelings.

But trying to prove someone needs to go to conservatorship or something, on the argument “they don’t mow the lawn, they’re incapable of basic human understanding” is taking the piss at the very least.

I hope someone gives them a strong reprimand for taking up the courts time with shit like that…

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