It is cheaper to go a long distance than a short one. eg Biel to Le Landeron NE costs more than going one station further to Cressier,
That is weird especially given that it’s the same train.
Just buy a ticket to Cressier and get off a stop earlier in Le Landeron,
Are they in different zones?
I doubt it. Can you post screenshot?
Ok, I understood. The first ticket is zones ticket. You can travel freely inside the zones within certain timeframe. The second one is point to point. You go exactly from the railway station to the railway station and cannot use local transport inside these towns.
Yes that seems to be correct.
It seems that we cannot use this hack in Zurich, because all the neighboring cantons also use zones and they are connected with ZVV network via Z-Pass, so we cannot buy point-to-point ticket to the locations in neighboring cantons.
I don’t understand why it’s possible to buy a point to point ticket to Cressier but not for Le Landeron as they are both in Canton Neuchâtel and Bienne is canton Bern.
If both stations are within the canton with zone system, you cannot buy point-to-point. Point-to-point are actually for the interregional travelling.
It can be that Le Landeron is also a part of Bern transport network (same as Pfäffikon SZ is in ZVV).
I have had arguments with a number of people who just don’t believe that
It isn’t, Le Landeron is part of the Neuchâtel transport network.
I’m finding it quite weird to be honest.
It’s in both networks. Sometimes they overlap.
Even a location in another country can be a part of the network. Several locations in CH and DE belong to Vorarlberg network and people with Vorarlberg monthly or yearly ticket can go there without any additional payment.
And Konstanz (D) is a part of Thurgau network
When I looked it said Le Landeron was not part of the Bern network which is very confusing.
I never take the train from there anyway but I am curious about it all.
For some reason, there is a pricing order when traveling West and another pricing order when traveling East.
Maybe some weird subsidies at work, or maybe the train is impacted by physics general relativity in some way.
Prices with travel distance in increasing order from Biel:
Biel > Ligerz BE: 4.20
Biel > La Neuveville BE: 5.20
Biel > Le Landeron NE: 5.20
Biel > Cressier NE: 4.30
Biel > Cornaux NE: 4.70
Biel > St. Blaise NE: 5.50
Prices with travel distance in increasing order from Neuchâtel:
Neuchâtel > St. Blaise: 2.30
NE > Cornaux: 2.30
NE > Cressier: 3.30
NE > Le Landeron: 3.30
NE > La Neuveville: 4.40
NE > Ligerz: 5.80
@omtatsat: how did you find about this? very quirky and very specific issue haha
In those cases I believe it’s down to who owns the track. The lines from Austria to Buchs and St Margrethen are both owned and operated by the ÖBB while the line from Kreuzlingen to Konstanz is owned by the SBB.
It’s not an issue, it’s by design. For bigger price you get more service. Like, you can go there in back on the same ticket if you do it quickly, because it’s a zone ticket. It has no direction, only a list of tones where you can move freely within certain time frame. While point-to-point is much more restricted. You can only go by train and only in one direction. To use a local transport or to return you will need another ticket.
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Yes, but Buchs and St.Margrethen are also a part of SG transport network and people travelling through these stations in Switzerland pay normal Swiss prices.
Don’t ask AI, just open the picture with Bern transport network and you will see that Le Landeron NE belongs to the zone 314, same as La Neuveville BE.
ahhhhh, now it makes sense, thanks!
The 5.20 CHF ticket for Biel > Le Landeron is a 90 min ticket for 4 zones. Valid for any train or bus within those 4 zones 90 mins after buying the ticket.
The 4.30 CHF ticket for Biel > Cressier is a point-to-point ticket. Valid only for the train the ticket was bought for.
The guess the only is that if the passenger only needs a single journey within 90mins, passenger is overpaying. Buy a ticket for the next station and enjoy the ride!
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Point to point is valid on any train that takes the same route. You can even leave the train in the middle of the journey, go for a walk, have a lunch and then continue your journey.
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Also take into account that on smaller distances the dependency between distance and price is not proportional. In canton Zurich 2 zones ticket costs 3.20 and 3 zones - 3.50, which is almost the same.
Even Half fare gives much smaller discount than 50% on the local tickets.
I use the Fairtiq app which seems really good at working out the best ticket for you at the end of the day. It is no good for super saver or multi-ride tickets but works well with a 50% Swiss Pass.