The CFF uses the Fairtiq software for their EasyRide fare calculations.
It was a report in Tages Anzeiger.
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An interesting article. Fairtiq is really convenient. I hadnât realised that it did not always find the the cheapest ticket. I have probably been lucky that most of my trips have been fairly simple. Sounds like the system will get changed.
In case folks canât read the articles due to a paywall, Iâve replaced the Tagi links below using archive.is so you can read them.
The Tagi article from omtatsat is interesting. In particular this bit: âThe countless zone, route and subscription offers with 4000 ticket variants are to be replaced by a greatly simplified product range with only three different tickets.â
Iâm curious as to how that will affect my cost as someone that generally travels on the Libero zone network in combination with a 1/2 tax card. Iâm also not a fan of the idea that everyone is forced onto the app and they can literally track our movements real time. Not that Iâm doing anything dodgy, itâs just a lot of data thatâs being collected. Are tourists expected to download the app and provide payment information using their foreign credit card, which will probably charge them fees for using the card here?
Hereâs the Ktipp article that is mentioned in the Tagi article. Sorry, itâs also only in German but Google translate does a halfway decent job.
True, particularly as the Faretiq app needs to have Location settings âAlways Onâ in order to work properly. It says that it uses your location only for fare calculations. But as long as you fully close the App (Swipe Up) it cannot track you when you are not using it.
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I always give permissions for only when an app is active. It does not protect you from hacks or from your approximate position being visible to the Telecom company. Hence those gangsters in the films discarding their SIM cards. Doing a drop-off run with Fairtiq active is not a good idea.
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Just having an Android or Apple is enough to be tracked by the minute. So installing an app that does the same will only release it to another source that you may or may not trust. With current EU and Swiss laws I would trust more a Schengen product.
Of course if you are really concerned there are smartphone OSs that do not track. /e/OS - e Foundation - deGoogled unGoogled smartphone operating systems and online services - your data is your data
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I keep location tracking off on all apps and only allow/activate it when I open the app.
Explain how a commute like this would work with Fairtiq: Libero zone train to Bern, stop in the station to buy coffee and lunch, then to the bus or tram and to my destination.
With the multiple-journey ticket, I stamp it at home and hop on/hop off train/tram/bus whenever and wherever within the specified time limit of the ticket. I can even return home on the same ticket if Iâm only in town a short time. Itâs stamp once and done.
If I understand whatâs written above, Iâd need to start the app at my home station, stop it when I get to Bern, restart it when I get on the bus or tram, and stop it again at the next destination. Otherwise the app will follow me to the coffee shop, Starbucks, etc. in between train and bus or tram.
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I think you would need to try it and see. For Zug, ZĂŒrich and Luzern, Fairtiq seems to work out which is better, a day card or a separate ticket for the return journey. If you just stop for a coffee or do some shopping, then it is no problem. The only time I stop and restart outward bound is if some of the journey is for instance by car, generally walking distances are not relevant. Fairtiq have also always responded when I have queried the sum calculated - normally due to my not turning off the app on arrival.
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The thing is that if you are traveling within zones and you return quickly you do not need a return ticket at all. You can travel as much as you want within the indicated zones during the validity of your âsingle journeyâ ticket (0.5, 1 or 2 hours, maybe more in some cantons). The question is whether Fairtiq can recognize this case and really issue the cheapest valid ticket or not. I donât use it so I have no idea.
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Turn it on before you get on the train, turn it off when you get to your furthest point. Turn it back on when you get on for your return and off when you get off at your home stop. Ignore any âhave you stopped your journey messagesâ.
Fairtiq will calculate your outbound journey and send you a text showing how much. They will also send you a text when you finish your second journey, but they will base the second charge on a recalculated journey including both inbound and outbound.
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Now I now why I always drive a car these days. Life is complicated enough without such shit.
I know I would be the SBBâs perfect customer, always forgetting to turn off the app. I know this from using my hiking app. https://www.komoot.com/
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Fairtiq asks you if you stop moving at more than a walking pace for more than a few minutes. I think the CFF app does too.
Which could mean you are dead. 
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And when one gets in a car and speeds away?
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Fairtiq is a scam. They know that most people dont check the charges so they can overchage like they want. When caught out they simply refund the money. But in the end they profit from the scam.
The turning off and on sounds like a lot of faffing about. Or I let it track me from the coffee shop to Coop to wherever. Oh the things apps learn about consumer habits tracking people as they go about daily life.
Marketing is a big business. Data collecting by big tech is the name of the game. Google, Meta, Microsoft, Amazon and Apple all do it. In the old days it was just the credit card companies. In fact they could even tell when a woman was pregnant.
Well then you get a larger than expected bill for your journey. I have done that exactly twice and both times Faretiq has refunded the extra charge.