Dating in Switzerland: who initiates?

Hi,

I have been reading several threads on the "none existing" dating in Switzerland (hopefully urban legends :-)...

Concrete question: is the swiss man scared by a woman taken initiative to ask out?

Should I wait until he makes step?

Colleague at work (I know... dangerous) but... single (surprisingly). We have been approaching for weeks but I need to meet him out of the office (hard to find excuse without being quite straightforward).

Please advise.

I have yet to meet the Swiss woman who doesnt say "yes" when asked out on a date. I think they appreciate auslander men for being up-front. But they normally say yes even if they dont really find the guy attractive. Thats because most Swiss men are not that up-front on the average. So they go for it when they have the chance.

Now if youre a female I would suggest finding out what he likes to do and then tell him youre about to do that very same thing this weekend and ask if he wants to help you out.

Just ask him if he wants to go to the cinema tonight. Afterwards you can enjoy a snack together and discuss the film.

However, relationships with people in the same department are never a good idea!

Not in the same department, not even same floor... does that help? :-)

Want to impress a man ?

Play the game, start the chase.

A sincere smile and blush/look away when you see him next.

A little anonymous post-it note with a compliment on his desk/monitor.

An email asking him where he shops for clothes because you want to get a relative something that looks great.

An invite to him, asking him to escort you to an EF event, you really want to go but need someone 'real' and 'alive' to talk to. Plus you know this great restaurant on the way home, and/or you think your Espresso machine is broken at home and it needs a mans opinion on whether or not the coffee is up to scratch.

At all times , flirt like crazy but play hard to get. But for no more than two weeks. If he has not taken the bait and and does not start to woo you (and I am not talking Chinese dancing) then walk away, he may gay or married or in a relationship.

Good luck ! I think all men appreciate a first move by a lady...Some of us are incredibly shy.

That is to say, don't compliment him on his choice of monitor , obviously...

could work with geeks...

Next time you pass him in the corridor, perform the blowjob mime and lasciviciously lick your lips.

I think that might work.

Not sure. Some Swiss are not that fast when it comes to understanding non-verbal communication. I'd say just schedule a meeting in the supply room with him through outlook.

Or he doesn't understand your bipolar interpretive mating dance....

What's wrong with you asking? He may think there's no way that you'd be interested in him and you've given him no obvious sign that you are. It seems a bit unfair that you ask him to be straightforward but you don't seem to be willing. Why are women so unwilling to face rejection yet expect men to do exactly that?

There is so much truth in the saying: "never screw with the crew" take it from me, been there, done that and still gun-shy after almost 20 years.

Either that or his IQ is in the single digits. Talk about being upfront!

or he may be a man, and therefore oblivious to these very subtle hints

i was talking to one of my swiss friends at the weekend and she told me in her 30 odd years here, not a single swiss guy had approached her ever. - and she ain't no munter.

Upfront, with the honour behind ambiguity... Gives a girl an honest way out and an honest way in... Subtlety can lead to confusion and lack of action, probably the situation the OP finds herself in right now.

You know he might have the new one with the fastest refresh rate...

Something I have seen work with some of my friends is if a small group (3) is going to lunch together, you can invite him to be the fourth. Great way to have conversation, and if it goes well, you hang back from the other two with him and tell him you'd like to continue the conversation, maybe over coffee/drinks later. If it doesn't go well, then it was just lunch with coworkers and doesn't mean anything either way.

We are deprived of normal human contact, so definitely

A quick flash of the *ash wouldn't go a miss...

break out of your self imposed role play and simply ask him out!

I would seriously be wary of sleeping with the staff TBH. It is unlikely to end well ...

Seen it way to many times