Australia is know to be leading country in IVF.
But in Europe - Poland and Hungary are countries where you receive treatment from world class experts. Both countries work with the newest techniques - not all are available in CH, new clinics and competitive prices and almost everyone speaks English.
Plus in Poland there is UEFA this year !!! Another good excuse to take off from work
i've had treatment at Dr. Singer too - i had insem though and after 3 tries it worked. i'm now 5 months pregnant with twins.
I can highly recommend him and his team, they take their time.
btw - insem is payed for in switzerland for 3 tries!
if you have questions do pm me.
Congratulations on the pregnancy!
take care
Stella
fingers cross ladies!
Stella
Best of luck!
1- Lab is critical, huge advantage US clinic, where there is also no wait time
2- Laws are more favorable in the US, such as culturing all embryos to day five, and PGD is allowed in most states
3- More customized protocols in the US. They only used menopur, for instance, did not check hormone levels at all. More thorough monitoring MIGHT have given us an answer why only one follicle responded in one IUI cycle, or may have indicated waiting was advantageous.
4- The cost is about one third to one half of that in the US.
Not every clinic in the US is better, but there are some that are just a cut above. I have only nice things to say about the doctors themselves in GynART. It is their protocols that leave me a bit skeptical. Maybe a lot skeptical.
PM me if you have specific questions; I will be happy to share. I have done a lot of homework on the clinics in the US.
I already did an IUI at the Unispital in Zurich but I wasn't so happy (It was an ICSI at the beginning, but it turns out I have low ovarian reserve so I had only one good egg, but they didn't told us that with one egg they did only IUI. I started in January and ended in May because they have a lot of patients, different doctors will see you each time you go, etc.).
Where did you have your treatment when you got your twin boys)? Was it Switzerland?
I have tried to find a forum for English speaking people LIVING in Switzerland going through or planning to go through ivf...I wasn't able to find anything really (just little posts in various places) except here at the englishforum. Unless I missed it? If so please advise
While it is interesting to read IVF forums in other countries, it would be better to have a 'local' resource for those going through IVF here in CH. So we know what to expect, what issues can arise, costs, share knowledge and experiences etc. It seems it can differ greatly from one end of the country to the other.
As some of the posts I have read through on EF are quite old , it would be really helpful to get some recent updates on clinic experiences in & out of Switzerland, Dr's in CH, costs etc.
Can anyone in Northern Switzerland provide some info? In Zurich - recommended dr's, I've just read a thread on EF about Bregenz - does anyone have any personal experience? Anyone gone/going to Spain, Belgium etc?
Would help us to make our decisions going forward.
Thanks
same issue here, we are expat living in Zurich area and desperately looking for information but can only find old post googling around.
we already went through two IVF cycles with no good results. first one made in Switzerland and the second in Spain , they both varies in term of esperience, pros and cons but not fully satisfied.
Many questions came to our minds, we don't know if there are better technologies/treatments abroad and better keep trying in in CH. This time we think to try the ICSI (or IUI) but still trying to look for a dedicated and passionate doctor who main target is not to steal money.
Do you have any reference in US we could look at ? any clinics to advice ?and do you think are they better in applying latest researches/approaches ?
I don't know of anyone that has IVF in the US. Maybe there are others on this forum that might.
To be honest in most cases I have been told - by various Dr's & not all related to IVF - that you should expect to have around 3 attempts before being successful. But it all depends on the reasons why you cannot conceive - which can be very different in each case.
From various sources - Spain seem to be 'up there' in terms of success. Not sure which clinic you went to in Spain, but I can give you details of the one I went to in Barcelona if you PM.
We also had a colleague that recommended a clinic in Belgium and they had THREE successful IVF's!! But when we contacted the clinic they were very busy. So be prepared to have to wait (I understand every month is important depending on age/circumstance) - one clinic told me in December they are only taking people for February!!
I have heard very good reports about serum in Athens - personal care so on. However, there is also a 'waiting list' (I guess they can only take on so many cases).
Having been through a few rounds now, and had case file reviewed for another clinic, I think you have to be VERY strong and HONEST with yourself and your situation. As I am having to be. If your 'case' doesn't look good & depending on results from previous tries then a decent clinic will not take you on as they know what the chances are & don't want to get your hopes up (take your money). But it doens;t mean it is NOT possible.
Depending on what your research many of the additional services have been found not to increase chances at all
.... http://www.bbc.com/news/health-38094618 - just google and for a few...
Also some clinics don't charge extra for e.g. IUI but do it as standard - so really do your homework.
Not to mention the smudging of statistics of clinics 'successes'...not everywhere is measuring the same thing...an IVF pregnancy may not result in a LIVE birth...
BASICALLY, it IS a huge money making business. I should have prepared my self more for the 'probably not' option, but I didn't. I was ready to start next round in February & my otherhlaf said no more. Now trying to deal with the possibility that it won't happen for us now.
I'm not trying to dissuade anyone - quite the opposite, be positively optimistic - just go in prepared & be realistic.
Feel free to PM me with any questions.
Dr. Nordin - we were successful on the first cycle. She was very supportive through the process and the Center was 100% professional. We are obviously very satisfied. So She is another one others can consider.