Need advice on all-season, or all-weather tires

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Need advice: I have a 2017 Camry, Tires 175/50/R15 week 40/2016

Only go 25,000 miles on now, but saw cracked sidewalls and crow's feet.

Should I change to a new tire? If so, which tire should I choose?

The criteria to choose are quiet and comfortable, and relative durability is okay. The car only goes in the city and sometimes on weekends I go back to my hometown on the highway.

Thanks for everyone's advice!

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Two things that a car must have in great working condition - tyres and brakes. Failure of these two is most likely to kill you.

So yes - new tyres. All season seems reasonable to me.

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Youz ever heard the expression "Jack of all trades, Master of none" ? as this can easily be applied to all-weather tires.

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provide source of that claim please?

i drive all-season on two cars for last 10+ years - no issues.

Majority accidents happens at change of the conditions in temperatures 0-7C - that could be because both Summer and Winter tiers are worst in this temperatures or because they are so good across other temperatures is that we see accidents only in range they are pretty poor.

4Seasons earned good reputation in last decade and are on par with other - just in summer usage is higher

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I live at 800m which is not particularly high; last week anybody who didn't have proper snow tires didn't move, they just blocked the roads up

I will conceed, it all depends what type of car you have, low power, low value, all weather tires are a compromise trhat you have to decide if it is worth it.

In the case of an accident, failure to be properly equipped for prevailing conditions will result in the blame being layed at your door.

Tires are cheap, a set of tires for a Polo for instance, 15" rims, is about Chf 320.-- fitted.....is your life only worth this small amount of money ?

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The OP appears to be in Canada. Hardly relavent.

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I have learned that when the temperature drops below 7 degrees Celsius, it is necessary to use suitable winter tires or all-weather tires that are good for snow. as in this post https://tireer.com/when-to-put-on-winter-tires/ Below this temperature threshold, if using summer tires, an accident is inevitable.

@"4Seasons earned good reputation in last decade and are on par with other - just in summer usage is higher"

So like you said, all-season tires are better in the summer, so what about all-weather tires? Please advise! Thanks!

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OP, for your use-case, I think an all-season tire is ok.

This discussion about winter vs. all-season is a never ending story. Heck, every forum has one such discussion that comes alive around Oct/Nov.

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I use good quality all season tyres on both of my vehicles. Live in an area where there's plenty of snow (- temperatures) and drive in snow covered mountains quite often. No issues.

All season/weather tyres have come a long way within the last few years and performance is almost equal to that of a winter/summer tyre for general driving.

Make sure the all season tyres have the snow flake (M+S) and the three mountain peak symbol.

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Are you in Switzerland?

If so could you update your location please.

If, as your profile says, you are actually in Canada a Swiss forum is not really the best place to ask.

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If all-season tyres were so wonderful, we’d all be using them. We’re not...

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Most of the things in the world are wonderful but still all are not using them

Its a matter of personal choice and understanding the recent developments in all season tyre technology.

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Whatever you say, they are a compromise between summer & winter tyres.

They may have good properties, but an all weather tire is not as good as a dedicated summer or winter tire.

They may be adequate, depending on usage, but for the money, i prefer to have dedicated tires for the relavant seaons.

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Like I said, personal choice and experience Do what you think is best, specially for your own confidence when driving

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First off, yes you have to get new tires. When the sidewalls are damaged the tire is toast.

I recommend the Michelin CrossClimate2 based on what I have researched for my car. They're brand new for 2021 and for the few kilometres I've driven on them so far, I'm happy with the ride and noise aspects. Check out these reviews:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ_ILeJ4lH8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT2odY3C6Og

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3WssIxusLU

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Nope. The most important feature of winter tires is being able to brake in shorter distance than other tires. So far, it seems all-season tires cannot stop cars as good as dedicated winter tires.

All-seasons are seemingly good because they offer a bit more of traction in snow and coupled to 4x4 they give the impression of having a a car ready for winter conditions. The Swiss love 4x4, back on 2017 half of the new cars had some 4x4 capability (see stats below). Of course, the statistic mixes off-road 4x4 along Audi Quattro and similar systems.

https://www.auto.swiss/fr/actuel/art...-sont-des-4x4/

I'd venture to say that the most dangerous car these days is a 4x4 in all-season tires because the car has the capability to accelerate without moving sideways, gets out of deep snow and climb slippery slopes. Therefore, the driver is confident about "not getting stuck", but the car still has poor cornering and braking performance.

The issue with the driver being confident about not getting stuck in snow, it's that the driver will choose to drive in worse conditions than people without 4x4 cars...while the car cannot break.

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brake?

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For every car we have ever bought (in CH and in FR before that) we also bought (or sometimes got for free) a set of steel rims and winter tyres.

Not expensive and simple to change, a good investment.

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I have exactly this sans the poor cornering and braking performance. Axa, I see from this and your previous posts that you are totally against 4x4s

Lets put it to test if someone with "proper" winter tyres that live close to Neuchatel. The mountains are snow packed with icy roads. This way we can close this EF arguments forever. The beers on me if you are proven correct

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Under which conditions?

Tyres are tested at specific temperatures/conditions. The problem is, nobody switches tyres 10 times a year. So with dedicated winter/summer tyres there will be several days each season where you have completely inadequate tyres fitted. Think snow in spring or Sunshine in early winter. This is where statistically a GOOD 4 season tyres help you out and overall provide you with more safe kms. Yes, there will be a few specific winter days where on a small section of road covered with deep snow you have a 5%longer braking distance....