non EU B permit - change job, open or closed permit

Finally spoke to canton authorities last week. They told me that the new company would have to apply for the new permit and that it should be easier the second time around. They also told me that I would only have to resign from current job once I have the approval from the new Canton as well that I would not have to leave Switzerland while awaiting approval.

Anybody able to share opinion on the above?

That would be the best way to do it. Technically you can’t start work for another employer until you have approval from the relevant canton authorities so resigning too soon could cause you problems if by some wild chance they rejected the new application. There’s no need for you to leave Switzerland while the process is going on. You’re currently employed so why would you need to leave? Once the approval is granted, you can resign and your company will get your new work permit so you can start in your new job.

Thanks so much for the information. I was led to believe previously that one has to resign and then hope that you receive the new permit. This is much more risky.

Sounds a bit odd, not to say difficult for your old company. If you resigned and didn’t get your new permit, your old company would presumably have to advertise your position all over again to show the authorities that they couldn’t find anyone better than you so could they please have a new permit for you so they can rehire you. Waste of everyone’s time; much better to let you stay employed until you get approval or not. After all, if you don’t presumably you’ll want to stay where you are and keep working until you find something else you want to apply for.

Hi John, this the link from the swiss immigration authority on B permit issued for non EU nationals. I hope this helps, you can also make an inquiry to the contact there

http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...willigung.html

I had same query. Called to the Bern immigration office and they clearly explained all my doubts. thanks.

Hello All,

I would appreciate some advice and/or tips if anyone here has any experience with this.

I am a non-EU citizen and have been living and working here in Switzerland for a little over two years. I recently resigned from my position (it was an indeterminate contract) and found out that since my permit B is tied to my work the immigration office wouldn't renew my permit beyond my last day at work. Is this right? Is this the law here? I can't find much information on this anywhere online or maybe I am not looking in the right places.

Since I have been living here for 2+ years I also have a lot of stuff and an apartment. It doesn't make sense to me that they would expect me to leave the country on the day I finish work. Someone also told me recently that since I have worked here for more than 12 months I am also eligible for unemployment benefits. More than that though, I just want to buy some time to settle things here.

Any advice, any ideas, any help are highly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Best,

P

No, it’s not a new rule. Non-EU permits are nearly always tied to the employer you work for as they had to go through a long and expensive process to get the permit for you.

You may be eligible for RAV payments, but as you resigned there’ll be a penalty period which could be up to 3 months before you start getting any payments. Plus if your permit runs out once you quit work, they may not agree to apply to renew it.

As you’re an Indian national you really need to talk to both the migration office and RAV to see what your options are. Find out if the migration office will allow you some time to sort things out before you have to leave the country. Check with RAV whether they will agree to apply for a new permit for you so you can job hunt. Once you have those answers then you can decide on a plan of action.

I don’t know how long you have until your permit runs out, but you do need to be prepared to possibly have to leave the country on the day your permit expires. As an Indian national you need a visa to be here as a tourist so couldn’t stay past the expiry date in that capacity.

If it's tied to work, then this is correct.

Normally, depending on nationality, one can spend three months as a tourist afterwards, but that's it.

Tom

Look for a new job. If a company wants to employ you and can justify that they cant find a person with similar skills in CH + EU, then you can get another residence permit based on this employment.

I wouldn't suggest to take social benifits right away as this might create issues in the longer term.

All the best

See if you are Non EU and have a permit tied to your employer then you will find it difficult to get the renewal. If and When your employer informs the Authority on your employment termination you might even get a letter from Migration office with time specified in which you have to leave the country.

Also because you resigned from the Job and you were not made redundant you will find it difficult to get Unemployment benefits or permit extensions. I suppose they are more sympathetic to people who are made redundant.

Did you consider these before resigning from your job?

My advise would be to go back to your employer and give some excuse why you resigned ( family issues, stress etc.) See if they will take you back. Then sort all your issues out before you resign. Also start to apply for new jobs and keep records this is required by the RAV.

That might be possible, but the Swiss authorities might also insist that his employer goes through the non-EU hiring process again.

I thought he might be here with an Indian company, they would be slow to submit the documents to the Swiss authorities. He might have a chance to change his mind.

Well, it’s certainly worth a try if he wants the job back.

Thank you all for your replies!

I did resign knowing that this situation is a possibility where my permit wouldn't be renewed for a longer period but what I didn't expect was that it would end the day my notice period at work ends (the 31st of July).

I might get a schengen visa, just hope it's long enough and not just for a few days.

I work for a Belgian company with an office in Switzerland and no, I don't want to go back to work for them. After having worked in the US for many years I didn't like the work culture at this company nor could get used to it.

Thank you all again.

"I wouldn't suggest to take social benifits right away as this might create issues in the longer term."

This is completely right and a wise advice. I couldn't have said better.

Rgds.

If you mean RAV as "social benefits" then I couldn't agree with you. RAV stands as an insurance and not social aid.

Social benefits means, only AHV and SwissLife or any other should I take attention ?

Thanks.

RAV is not a social benefit.