September 28 2025 Vote

I’ll vote yes because it removes a penalty on home ownership. If it remains then a balanced proposal would include including rent paid as income.

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What are you talking about, the income you pay rent from is in fact taxed.

Thanks for making my argument.

I pay tax on my income, then I have to increase that by the imputed value. So I am paying taxes on money I never earned.

Thank you for making my argument for me.

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The imputed value is (part of) the amount you gain from using your property. It’s compensation for the alternative:

You could let it and rent elsewhere, only one side affects your taxable income.

Eliminating the imputed amount is a clear advantage to homeowners unless rent is made tax deductible.

Any more recent poll of vote intention?

The 13.08.2025 poll from Tamedia group (20min, TA, TdG) shows a 65% yes to abolish the Eigenmietwert, 30% No, and 5% did not answer.

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Just thought of something:

Any tax savings I see from not paying Eigenmietwert will end up in Uncle Sam’s pocket.

Damn.

(Only applicable to those of us carrying the blue albatross, nonetheless that’s a pretty big negative for me.)

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Your income would be lower without the addition of Eigenmietwert. So surely Umcle Sam would get less??

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The US has no clue about taxing imputed rental value. It is not considered income by the IRS.

I should explain more clearly:

As a US citizen I pay in total - to one country or the other - at least the US tax rate.

My US tax rate is higher than my Swiss tax rate.

I can deduct (most of) my Swiss tax from my US tax.

Reducing Swiss tax (abolishing Eigenmietwert) doesn’t help me, in the end it simply means a smaller deduction against my US tax, meaning the US then gets a larger share of my tax liability pie.

I’m actually happier to pay more to Helvetia if it means a smaller portion goes to Uncle Sam.

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The Eigenmietwert has been an annoyance to me for 50 years. You save your money and pay tax on your savings - you finally have enough to buy a house and pay tax on the purchase AND it is now classed as part of your “Vermögen” and you pay tax on that. And to top it all, they tax you again because you aren’t paying any rent (Eigenmietwert). For me that has always been the grösste Schweinerei. So it gets a big JA from my husband and I.
It is almost (but not quite) as ridiculous and unfair as the “rainfall tax” which businesses in Basel-Land have to pay based on the size of the roof of the business, because omygawd, water falls off the roof onto the ground. I am still VP of a concert venue (with a very large roof) in BL and got used to hearing the boss’s rants about it every time he got the bill.

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However, assuming that you have no mortgage, is the wealth tax the same whether it is a home or money in the bank?

But the US Fed tax is only an income tax. It does not tax any assets. Is the full Swiss tax deductable (i.e. Federal, Canton and Town taxes) income and wealth?

It’s a cantonal issue so YMMV. In VD the answer is yes but the value isn’t recalculated very often. I couldn’t tell you when that was for us. But there will be capital gains on the sale, which wouldn’t apply to cash in the bank.

Amen. At least I get something from “Auntie Helvetia”.

The whole thing about what the US taxes and what CH taxes, and when, is all rather confusing. More so for retirement. But that’s a major highjack.

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It is voted on the 28.09.2025, but it is NOT about the Eigenmietwert – but about the e-ID.

Has anybody been able to find WHO will be the data processor? (please do not confuse the data controller, who will be someone in Switzerland, reporting to the Swiss government, with the data processor, who is the company who actually stores, manages and holds the data).

From Swissinfo:

Switzerland’s upcoming vote on E-ID concerns whether to adopt a government-issued electronic identity (digital ID), which would let residents securely prove their identity online for administrative, legal, and commercial purposes. The digital identity would be optional, free of charge, and managed solely by the federal government—not by private companies as in previous proposals.

Actually it is, two issues get voted on.
Mind, the first question is massively misleading, the taxation of second homes is a connected but very minor aspect of the entire issue.

Right two issues federally.

E-ID, and,
Tax on Secondary Residences.

Two x Oui for the Bowlies.

What about Enegiegesetz in ZH? I will probably vote No, but I am not 100% sure yet.

I’m also interested how do people living in the city of Zurich vote for the cheap transport Abo. I think I would have voted No if I could vote.