Try calling it Switzerland, you will be more popular around here
Switzerland is not in the US.
Tom
I do not see why it should be forbidden. Switzerland is the UK neither which has some strange Victorian installation and rules regarding plumbing.
At least my regular shower head is perfectly capable to be used for this purposes and could also fall into the loo. Some of the stalls on the Schilthorn are fitted with a bidet shower.
The proper Swiss way is to use a shower toilet:
https://www.geberit-aquaclean.ch/de_..._overview.html
Japanese manufacturer may offer more advanced options, such as heated toilet ring, FM-Stereo, and accent lighting.
If you don not find a plumber fitting such a thing, just let them install an extendable shower head on the sink. https://www.google.ch/search?q=herau...rause&tbm=isch
Replacing a 'normal' toilet, with a one with a 'shower' - as in the geberit above- absolutely no problem. Installing another WC in a different location- would need to be done by a plumber according to regs- to avoid mixing clean and dirty.
While I would not be surprised if there were a special regulation, which at least has to be checked by some "official" (like with electricity) I don't really see what is so difficult about "clean" and "used".
Where the water comes in is clean, where it goes out is used. If one would install it the other way around, it would simply not work
At least one would have his/her bidet, and best of all it functions 24/7 and depending on the error might even give warm and comfortable water.
(I would be curious tho how someone would attach a 12mm pipe to a 125mm drain and how one would connect the drain to the water inlet )
It is not really about that.
The concern the authorities have is that incorrectly installed plumbing could allow something "unclean" to be drawn back into the drinking water system.
Supposed you installed a new pipe to fill a garden pool or swimming pool and there was a possibility such water could be siphoned back.
In some countries you just have to fit a one way valve at the point where you connect to the existing system and after that you can do whatever you want.
Exactly
Still, I'm more and more curious about the answer actually but I'm still hoping someone else will do the work to find it and post it.
Not going to happen due to the pressure differential.
Tom
Edwin: You'd be surprised. Where there is a will there is a way.
It's a public health thing:
Given how law obedient most Swiss people are and the amount of material that can be bought which would be illegal to be used by homeowners themselves if such would be forbidden, and how the ruling is set up i have my mind set.
Unless there is a loss of pressure in the main system because of a closed valve. Suddenly your pool will act as a reservoir for all living bellow it.
I think it is now the same here and best practice. Looks like regulations regarding water installation are government by the local water provider:
For example the regulations for Basel: https://www.iwb.ch/Service/Online-Sc...kontrolle.html
They reference the regulations and guidelines from the SGVW http://www.svgw.ch/index.php?id=4
Ha! Cute. We're obviously good at keeping up appearances .
Edwin: Do you regard electrical installations as potentially dangerous, and therefore needing regulation and inspection? Most people do.
Yet you can purchase pretty much everything you need to electrocute yourself in any Baucenter.
Think about it from a global perspective: Which would you say causes more deaths per year worldwide: unsafe electrical installations, or unsafe plumbing? My guess would be unsafe plumbing, even if we exclude the third world.
I am fully aware of the reasons why people with lack of knowledge should not be allowed to work on certain things, however i only possess full knowledge of the regulations in Sweden, Holland and Belgium, and in all of those 3 countries everyone is free to make whatever changes to his water installation himself aslong as it fits the rulings.
And yes i do know that this is not Holland and that the Swiss do love a truckload of regulation, but i still fail to see how it is forbidden to alter a pipe, or replace a lightswitch on my own, nor do i understand why in countries like Switzerland, Germany and many more there are so many stores that sell parts and even tell people how to use those parts and even advertise with them in home delivered folders if the usage of such materials would be illegal.
Well... in this country i only know a few people who overspeed regularly, in Holland i only know a few people who don't overspeed regularly.
In Switzerland the cab driver refused to take us along since he did not have a proper baby chair, in Holland they tell you to keep the baby low so the police won't see it.
Just two random examples of how i came to this mindset.
In Germany people definitely are allowed to do much more than here - that is the clear impression I got.
But I don't really think it is illegal here to do it yourself. There are just some things that have to be approved by the electric company (EKZ for example) after. Which is still a lot cheaper than having it done by a pro. I guess that would be if you pulled new cables and stuff.
I've replaced all my light-switches (with dimmer-types) in several flats without asking or having them checked by anyone.
But I also remember one time, the EKZ came to check everything (they used to do this every few years? It was the only time I had them over) and they took note that in one room I had not bothered to put up a lamp AND just left the cables as they were. I was told to cover them and told they would check on it again (which they didn't).
Right, so you feel that the Swiss government has some requirement to explain itself to you personally?
What do you think the reaction would be if you were to write to the Swedish, Dutch, and Belgian authorities and ask them to justify the fact that changing plumbing installations isn't limited to qualified professionals? Your answer would be about the same as asking the inverse question here: "That is how things are here."
From a purely practical standpoint so few Swiss people actually do any DIY renovations that it's only really we foreigners who notice that it's odd that you can buy the materials, but cannot install them.
Am I getting this right, you find the Swiss Cab driver's behavior a problem because he refuses to put your baby, and his driver's license, at risk?
Please show me an instance of this ever happening.
Also, a loss of pressure would not suffice, it would have to become negative pressure AND have no air present in the hose to the pool.
Tom