Tesla EV discussion

A small town of 2,000 people 42 miles north of Bakersfield, one mile off the interstate I5. Huge potential here.

The EV owners of Lost Hills will mostly charge at home. Superchargers are for those on road trips and a mile off the interstate will be ideal for a break and top up…

A 100m would be ideal, just like the existing Rest stop which has mechanics, restaurants, shops and motels.

Mark Watson from the video cast Car Wow said his wife was thinking of swapping her Tesla for the new Renault 5 EV.

She thinks the Teslas are just too “old man-ly” !

New registrations of Tesla vehicles in China fell 75.8% between June 30 and July 6, according to weekly insurance data published on Tuesday, marking the lowest level in two months and a sharp reversal from the prior week’s high.

Tesla registered 5,010 vehicles during the first week of the third quarter, down from 20,700 units in the final week of June — its highest weekly figure so far this year.

Tesla delivered 71,599 vehicles in the Chinese market last month, a nearly 1% increase from the same month last year, according to data released by China’s Passenger Car Association (CPCA).

I guess because the car is rather big.

It is, after all, a big-ass American car. Even the Model 3.

Next week I could have an unwelcome passenger in my car. Hopefully there is a way to toggle it on and off because I don’t fancy real time streaming of camera, location and voice recordings to Mr Musk.

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Come on, this’ll be fun won’t it? :laughing:

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FSD in Berlin:

Does this mean one has to roll up the windows while passing by the Bagel shop?

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They always remind me of a later model Ford Probe. Probably not the vibe that Elon was going for, though. :face_with_hand_over_mouth:
Tesla Model 3

1995 Ford Probe

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That doesn’t look similar at all.
Franz von Holzhausen (Tesla’s Head of Design) worked at Mazda before he joined Tesla and that shows.

The cars look much better in person than in pictures or even video - and that’s not something specific to Tesla. It’s an industry trend.

Nah, it just ‘put me in mind’ of the Probe - gimmicky. I got a lift in the UK in one (couldn’t tell you which model) and I was surprised how crap the interior was and the roughness of the ride.

At the end of the day, it’s down to personal preference and my impression was that they aren’t worth the money.

Clearly there’s a market for them or they wouldn’t be on the road.

Perhaps upfront cost is lower than other brands
Unless of course if it is a Mustang, GT, Bronco or F150

The ones made in the US (Model 3 delivered from early 2019 to, I think, sometime around halfway through 2020) are hit-and-miss. But the ones made in China (LRW VIN) and Germany (XP VIN) are mostly OK-ish. Model Ys never came from the US.

Facelift Model 3 (around 06/2023) and 2024 (and the early 2025 facelift) Model Y are also much more comfortable rides.

They are safe, fun to drive and the base-models are relatively cheap to own (deprecation of 2022 and younger cars seems to have bottomed out, mostly), for a car of that size and power.

The cars actually have very little “gimmicks” that can break, so I am actually not sure what you’re referring to…

“Worth the money” is of course very subjective. But I encourage you to take a test-drive in a recent model :wink:

Seems it’s gonna take a while before we get Grok.
Given that it can’t do much at the moment anyway, this doesn’t look like we’re missing out much for the time being.

The one I was in was fairly new. I think he bought it back end of 2023.

I know that people can be quite tribal about them and my friend was a bit ‘side-eye’ when I was taking the piss about the massive screen (“is that so you don’t need your reading glasses?” :joy:).

Anyway, big talk from someone who drives a clapped out hatchback for the dog…

There is a lot of internet buzz about Tesla’s Aluminum Ion battery.

If true it is sensational!
55kWh battery gives a range of 820miles/1300kms
Not affected by cold waether
Actually improves output with time rather than degrading
Cheaper and lighter and not dependent on China’s stranglehold on Lithium
Aluminum is the third most common element

IF true, who will buy a Tesla - or any other EV with lithium ion battery pack? A bit like the computer CEO who said if you think this new model is good, you should see what we are working on for our nexr model. Nobody bought the new one.

And who produces the most Alu?

It’s not who produces it, but who has the bauxite aluminum is smelted from. Worldwide aluminum reserves.

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