Yep. Just like phones.
Cars are going to be the next commodity.
Next up: household robots 
It’s an EV, as in PHEV
It’s been a while since I checked the EV sales stats in Switzerland.
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60% of new passenger cars have some degree of electrification.
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32.7% of new sales are non-plug hybrids. The Toyota Prius arrived to the market on 1998. 26 years later, the technology pioneered by this little car is close to taking over the passenger car market in CH.
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Only 40% of only fossil fuel burning cars up to Sep 2024. Within 2-3 couple years, they may stop being the largest fraction of new cars.
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Temporary hiccup or market saturation of BEVs? All consumers that can charge at home already have one? High prices?
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No love for PHEVs / plug-in hybrids. Price, design, is it true that carrying along both a big battery and an engine is idiotic?
I wondered this. There’s naturally a population of enthusiasts and early adopters. After they bought their EVs, I wonder how difficult it would be to convince the the next batch of more sceptical consumers to try an EV?
Corporate vehicles are moving towards EV.
Most people buy used, so their choices are going to dwindle in a couple of years as the supply of used ICE cars is declining.
My guess though is that the Swiss government will silently cancel or delay their CO2 neutrality target for 2050 amid budget concerns etc.
Landlords are obviously not going to pony up the money for a charging solution in a 20, 50, or 100 car garage. Nor are tenants easily persuaded to pay 50 CHF extra per month plus an additional surcharge for every kWh…
I know…I see them parked all the time when I go to the office.
At work, people can choose between using company EV which presumably is good for corporate image when visiting clients, and mobility. Most of travel is made with mobility because people tells they find one less than 500m away from their homes. mobility spares the train/bus travel to the office to get the green EV.
Yeah, it’s incredible (at least for me) that if I want to buy a used car some years down the road, it’s probably going to be a hybrid or BEV. ICE-only will be a specialty.
Unusual, but the 2050 CO2 neutral target was set without much thought. Great reductions can be made, but the last 10% to net zero will be hard to achieve, very hard.
I don’t understand the current environment. When chargers are discussed, it’s always about 10-20 chargers. Today, there are apartment buildings where there is a washing machine for 10 tenants and it works. Somehow chargers are different and have to be exclusive, thus electrical installation of the building has to be redone, of course this is too expensive and then nothing happens.
Landlords could install 1 or 2 chargers in a 100 car garage and operate them like a gas pump. Plug the car, pay for the electricity and charger use. Once battery is full, charger sends a notification to move the car and free the charger. If the owner does not move the car, charge a fine by hour. Also possible to set up a reservation system for tenants in a building to charge at different hours.
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A car is not laundry. Laundry can be removed with little effort.
Try moving a car out of the way without the keys.
People don’t want to move their car.
And there’s enough tensions with laundry rooms. Do you honestly believe landlords want to introduce another point of contention?
Every time they need to pick up the phone, write a letter or go on site, it’s a dent in their profits.
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It depends on prices for tenants and landlord profits.
People that own a house and install a charger pay electricity at X francs / kW.
People that rent an apartment need to be willing to price Y francs / kW to landlord owned charger. Y price needs to be higher than X to pay for charger + installation + convenience of arriving to a new apartment and finding a charger already there + landlord profit.
People already pays more per kW/hour in a charger in the motorway. How much is people willing to pay for a landlord owned charger (Y price) and is it profitable to landlords?
Mmmm, maybe I need to talk to my colleagues and find a customer for this study hahaha
In the end it won’t matter what the landlords want. Some will start providing charging points and in the end, others will have to follow suit.
There aren’t many new builds without their own washing machine. Twenty years ago that was only the preserve of much more upmarket apartments.
Speaking only about Tesla, the off peak rate at my local Supercharger is CHF 0.38 Kwh. The domestic rate in Zug is 0.33 Kwh, and of course that is much slower than a DC fast charger.
So I am not losing sleep over only being able to charge at public chargers, and it also wouldn’t be economical to pay ~CHF 1000 to have one installed.
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EV sales are dropping. What surprises me is that this should be a surprise. The last century has been the era of the private motor vehicle. I have fond memories of my first car. But its time has come. The rural population is falling. The private motor car is slowly but inevitably being reduced in /removed from the urban environment. Car firms need to diversify. EVs will replace ICEs. Both are a diminishing item. Celebration, we get the urban spaces back.
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BTW: for the people who actually used the Premium Spotify Account that came with Tesla Premium Connectivity: it’s gonna be over come December 1st:
Never used Spotify. At all.
So why don’t they add a speed-limiter? Modern technology could limit the speed to 110% of the relevant speed limit.
In fact why don’t all vehicles have speed limiters?
Isn‘t that something that is being iintroduced in the EU? A cap on the speed limit for new cars?
I use it about an hour a day - for the last 10 years. I wasn’t aware Tesla included Premium in Conductivity. I have paid for Premium Spotify since it was available.
Introduced myself to a lot of music I had missed since the 1960s!
I’m the same, I’ve always had Spotify premium so it’s not something I would use since it only works in the car.
Interesting idea.
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Im German, but I guess you get the gist:
One more thing you don’t have to worry about when you drive an EV:
The gas-station mixing up Diesel and Gasoline…
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