This, exactly- we were asked by the French Border Guards at the Tunnel, to allow us to transit through France. We had the 'attestation de domicile' and that was accepted. Probably the greay card would have been too.
Sure it's insanity but people move around, especially in a society where property ownership is low and if every time you needed to change your passport & an ID card because of an address change, it would create a lot of documents to produce and destroy each year.
Any case any foreign citizen wouldn't have this in their passport and there are a lot of foreigners in Germany......
I see, I thought showing a Swiss passport would be enough, when there are no restrictions on Swiss people entering France, as far as I am aware. Good to know that other documentation is also required. I would have travelled over on my British passport and returned on my Swiss and thought that would have been OK, as I understood restrictions applied to British Nationals. Clearly I have misunderstood. Could anyone link me to the new regulation?
They obviously get resident permits... and yes, those have an address on as well. The idea that an utility bill is a proof of residence is btw uniquely British... I think there are some historical or cultural reasons that people are opposed to the government issued IDs...
As in the news, the restrictions are ONLY for people travelling from the UK, so travelling from Switzerland to France (for now anyhow) should not be an issue.
Looking at a ski Holiday in France instead of travelling to the US which is a bigger risk.
Exactly, so why are people suggesting here that it's no longer possible to travel from the UK on a Swiss passport through France without a residency permit, and that this was the case last year? I asked JackieH if she had travelled on her Swiss passport to return home last year and she confirmed she did but also required proof of residency.
Brits still think it makes them superior to Johnny foreigner not to have police who demand “Papiere bitte!”
After COVID-1984 it makes little difference.
Ausweis bitte
Utility bills are also used as proof of residence in the US, where there is also resistance to government issued iDs.
A lot of discussion about this at the moment in the UK- as Covid passes now required for most venues, but there is absolutely no way to check ID is correct.
So a person could copy and share their covid pass as nobody can check the ID? Nice.
Nice is not the word I'd use ...
True, the concept of ID is a bit foreign in the UK!
Is that true? They even have Photo driver’s licenses there. No doubt they could even show a utility bill!
they can just say they do not have a licence- and utility bills don't have photos on!
If you are Swiss, you will only have a residence permit if you DO NOT live in CH!
Tom
Drivers license or Passport ?
I think there's been a fair bit of misinformation on this thread (not from you). I can only assume JackieH travelled on British passports last year and that's why she had to prove residency. Surely the issue then was that CH barred entry to British Nationals, so proof of residency was required. That is (at this point anyway) not the case this year. France has banned entry to British Nationals but is allowing passage. Obviously though it makes sense to take as much documentation with you as you can and if you are a dual national then I would take both passports. PLF forms can be amended with new passport details.
There are people in the UK who have neither
Just to muddy the waters further it appears that if any one is in a relationship or married to a French citizen they DO NOT have to demonstrate an essential reason to travel and thus can still travel unencumbered but still need to comply with tests et al. More info here: