treacle?

So folks, if I need treacle, what do I buy in Switzerland?

The dictionary says "Sirup" and I know for sure that's not it, that's the stuff we dilute with water here, coming in all forms of colours and taste.

A recipe for a treacle tart in German claims it is Caramel-sauce. An other one in English claims it is golden syrup. They do mention that the dark treacle (which is what I'm looking for) is molasses.

And that latter one, molasses, I personally do think it is. But if so, is it the "Melasse" we know here (made of sugar beet most times)?

I have a bread recipe by Lorraine Pascale I want to try out. She just says treacle and all one can see, it's in a tin and almost black. But the tin is kind of hidden.

Yes, mélasse is golden syrup, not treacle.

Nice that we have clarified that but as the title says: Treacle is what I'm after. Having to buy it in Switzerland under the name of ..............?

Yes, I know. But I didn't say, as I ... don't know, honestly, if it exists and what it is called.

The only thing I can think about is 'mélasse noire' - but I don't think I have ever seen any.

I think it’s called black molasses. It is very dark and thick.

This stuff

https://www.mcdrogerie.ch/mineralia-...hwarze-melasse

Is probably what you need. There are versions of Melasse which are not so dark. I use the above to make dark bread.

Actually, Jackie H is correct, I believe. And you can find it here.

Ah yea, I know that product. Thanks a lot!

Now I have to find it in smaller portions .... 680g is a lot just to try a recipe.

Thanks again.

I've also seen dark/black molasses sold in Apothekes here. I use to buy it to make my own brown sugar before I knew about sites like afoodave.ch, etc.

I bought both,lyle’s black treacle and lyle’s golden syrup in Globus

Golden syrup is, eeeh, more golden and light, black treacle is dark, with strong taste of, eeeh melasse You can check how they look here . I hope you can still get in Globus otherwise try some "British shops".

golden syrup is often used to prevent crystallisation, as inverted sugar, the black one is there for it's sweet bitter taste.

It’s not really golden syrup either, I would never use mélasse in a recipe that calls for golden syrup.

They sell black molasses in the Sunstore pharmacy here in smaller jars.

Hmm, yes, I make my own brown sugar with Carob (the carob molasses I can buy in the Turkish shop) and of course now I wonder if I could use that for that bread recipe.

I guess as long as I don't blame the composer of the recipe should it go wrong, it's worth a try?

Now you stump me- please explain. Always used 'mélasse' when I do not have Golden Syrup- with exactly the same results. The one sold at one of our local garages, in a jar, is really good.

https://www.dansukker.co.uk/uk/produ...d-baking-syrup

Ikea used to sell it in their "food store". Havent been there in a while so dont know if they still do.

Thanks, that link was interesting.

It’s a different composition and doesn’t have the right taste in my opinion.

A treacle tart made with mélasse really doesn’t taste right at all. It may be ok when it’s hidden in things but I just don’t use it asi don’t trust the results.

It last years so you can keep it and use it in other recipes; ginger Parkin, sticky gingerbread, Christmas cake (too late for that this year). It is sweet but gives a very rich deep flavour. I opened my latest tin for this year’s Christmas cake and expect I will use it for next years too.

It is surely this (found on Amazon, but certainly elsewhere also) :

Incidentally, it tastes even better when it is made into rum.

OK- must say I never made a treacle tart- just too sweet and sickly. But have used in my eggless chocolate cake (grandson VERY allergic to egss) and flapjacks, etc.

We use this as a substitute. Seems to work ok and can be found in Coop

https://www.ditzler.ch/de/products/v...mit-melasse-2/

Alternatively, I recently found out it‘s not that difficult to make if you want to

https://steves-kitchen.com/dark-treacle/

We will be combining both (if my substitute above counts as treacle) for our Christmas apero/starter

https://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/...erk-gravadlax/

I've got some. Half a tin. I'll sell you half for a meeeeeeeellion francs.

In pinch, I've bought the darkest sugar I can find, mixed with water and used that. But generally, I stock up. Look. I've my own problems, alright? I've got a Christmas Pudding to make, since my hamper won't arrive in time. At least I've suet and homemade mincemeat.

And treacle.