Vaccines are really necessary

Not sure if this would work, but maybe a permanence type walk in clinic would do it. They will treat foreign visitors for injuries, just not sure about immunizations for kids.

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I’m about the same age as RFK jr, and I never received the mmr, although I had a titer measured as evidence of natural immunity. He grew up in a different state, however.

His idea of “science” is sorely lacking.

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belongs in a straight jacket.

Maybe it wasn’t called MMR at that time? I was vaccinated against measles, but never against rubella. It was introduced later.

The first measles vaccine was licenced for use in the US in 1963 and the MMR vaccine in 1971.

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Ah, facts…. Than you!

By 1963 I’d had measles and mumps and rubella by 1971, so I guess I wasn’t a candidate. When I went back to grad school in the 1990s, I had to either prove immunity or be vaccinated again. They did a titer showing I was immune. I guess schools won’t be proving immunity these days.

And RFKjr is a idiot and a putz.

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But I think it was much later when that was rolled out in Europe?

I only know for the UK but I would imagine the rest of Europe would have had a similar timeline.
The measles vaccine was introduced in 1968 and the MMR vaccine not until 1988 in the UK.

Interesting, in my home country measles was only added in 1976.

I had mumps when I was thirty

I would have qualified to work for DOGE

According to the Historical Lexicon it was introduced here in 1964. Contrary to the DDR, West Germany was a decade late.

https://hls-dhs-dss.ch/de/articles/022715/2015-03-18/

After firing the 17 members of the CDC advisory board on vaccines RKKjr has replaced them with only eight members, a mix of anti-vaxxers, anti-covid, anti mRNA and purveyors of "health supplements "

https://x.com/SecKennedy/status/1932899858920120692

So happy I do not live in the US

For example, Martin Kulldorf, ex Harvard Medical Professor Claims He Was Fired for Opposing Covid Lockdowns, Vaccine Mandates.
Retsef Levi; The evidence is mounting and indisputable that MRNA vaccines cause serious harm including death, especially among young people. We have to stop giving them …

It is too depressing to go through the whole list

Even so , one more
Malone, who claims to be the inventor of mRNA vaccines despite what those who’ve worked with him say, became a fixture of conservative media during the pandemic.
He promoted the use of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin for treating the coronavirus, and repeatedly claimed the COVID shots did not work.

Antivax doctor @CartlandDavid found guilty on 17 counts of misconduct, including threatening and harassing fellow doctors.

He has 300,000 followers on twitter which proves a fool is born every minute

Can you pleeeeze, just for this once, stay on topic. This case has zero connections with vaccinations.

Put another way: It’s all in your head, and in your head only.

Perhaps the bit that wasn’t clear but emerges multiple times on his Twitter feed, is that the guy thinks the real reason he got struck off for the harassment, anti-LGBTQ rhetoric, breach of confidences, etc is because he’s a vaccine sceptic, mostly Covid vaccines.

Don’t shoot the messenger, just scanned through some of his rabbit hole.

Alberta, the “Texas of Canada” has experienced over1000 measles infections and one death. Effectively all with unvaccinated children.

This anti-vaxxer story has been in the headlines for the last week or so in the UK. Utterly tragic and so avoidable.

Our sister died because of our mum’s cancer conspiracy theories, say brothers

Gabriel and Sebastian Shemirani watched with concern as their mother Kate rose to notoriety during the pandemic, eventually getting struck off as a nurse for promoting misinformation about Covid-19.

Then, their sister Paloma was diagnosed with cancer. Doctors told her she had a high chance of survival with chemotherapy. But in 2024, seven months later, she died - having refused the treatment.

The brothers blame their mother’s anti-medicine conspiracy theories for Paloma’s death at 23 - as cancer doctors tell BBC Panorama these beliefs are becoming more mainstream.

Why is this in the vaccine thread? The charlatan mother..

When the Covid pandemic hit in 2020, Kate Shemirani was one of many conspiracy theory influencers who found a wider audience. Her beliefs appeared to have evolved from alternative health ideas to sprawling anti-establishment conspiracy theories.
She promoted the false ideas that the pandemic was a hoax, that vaccines were part of a plan to kill lots of people, and that doctors and nurses should be punished for their part in it all.

Now she’s trying to blame the NHS for the death of her daughter.

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In an article recently published by The New England Journal of Medicine, FDA higher-ups Vinay Prasad, MD, MPH; and Martin A. Makary, MD, MPH, wrote that any new COVID-19 vaccine must now be evaluated in placebo-controlled studies.

This is a ridiculous requirement.
New vaccines are usually tested against existing vaccines to check if there is any improvement vs the old one.
There is also an ethical question about the uneccesary risks of giving placebos to people involved in trials when an effective vaccine already exists.

This is a typical requirement put forward by anit-vaxxers who do not unsterstand science.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsb2506929

What a horrendous case. That mother is despicable and deserves to be prosecuted.

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