Vaccines are really necessary

Haven’t boarded cats for 30 years or more, always get housesitters to look after them at home. Cheaper, i.e. free, and much less stress. Is rabies on the list for cats? Never been included in jabs we had when they were kittens.

Edit: I would stress that I’m not arguing against vaccinating pets, just that the rabies one has never been suggested by any vet at any point and was surprised to see it apparently being included here, although it’s been clarified that the discussion is not specifically about that one now.

They used to be but not for many years.

Rabies is not one of the vaccines required for cat boarding facilities. I think it’s only required for travelling abroad with the cat.

We haven’t used a cattery for years as our neighbour always looks after ours when we’re away.

Wasn’t my original quote or link to study.

“However, no significant relationship was detected between vaccination and stroke, myocardial infarction, and arrhythmia”

is between vaccines. And most of the study relates to comparing events for different vaccines. Thought i should point this out :slight_smile:

Florida has banned vaccine mandates.
Presumably only for humans, dogs homes can continue to demand vaccinations?

Curious world we live in, some people are happy to believe Ivermectin and other specialised medicines can cure all kinds of things like COVID and cancer wirhout any substantial evidence.

Whereas some people don’t believe vaccines are safe and effective despite the tons of evidence.

1 Like

Same people, right?

2 Likes

I once had some conversations with people who were genuinely convinced that the covid vaccines were contaminated with AIDS virus and that the authorities were covering up the scandal. Crazy right? The problem is that there have been a number of scandals and cover-ups: My father the fraud: Daughter reveals how key scientist in Primodos scandal built career on lies | UK News | Sky News

1 Like

Are they really necessary? Not really.

I would strongly disagree with that.

3 Likes

Is pancreatic produced Insulin really necessary? Not really.

I’m 70 and during the years of 8 to 12 me and my two siblings had, over successive summers, most of the normal childhood diseases, my sister had a particularly hard time with rubella (It was called German measles then) and spent at least one night in hospital. Mumps, measles, rubella, whooping cough we had them all. And it made my single mother’s life absolute misery. Except for my sister we were never seriously ill but we each were bedridden for 10-20 days recovering (2 months for the whooping cough but not bedridden). It wasn’t all at the same time but one after the other.

Fortunately we all had the smallpox and polio vaccines and missed those two, unlike a school friend who succumbed to polio in his early teens. He missed two years of school and wore metal braces for his legs the rest of his life.

No, not necessary.

6 Likes

We got the sugar cubes; I remember going to the grammar school and lining up to have them popped into our mouths. Thank God.

2 Likes

I had a school friend who died due to Polio and another who was sick but not seriuosly disabled.

I had the vaccine in my mid teens

1 Like

I remember going to visit my mother’s cousin who lived in an iron lung. He was one of the ‘lucky’ ones of that generation; the extended family lost several children during various polio outbreaks. As did many families.

When the polio vaccine came along, I remember seeing my mother actually cry with joy. A collective sigh of relief from parents around the country, knowing that polio wasn’t going to be the terrifying threat to their children that it had been to them.

Fast forward, in the late 80s I worked with a young woman who used a mobility cart because she lost the use of her legs to polio. She grew up in a country without access to the polio vaxx. Decades after the polio vaxx was developed, children still suffered.

I hope that younger vaxx skeptic folks who have had the ‘luxury’ of not seeing those diseases up close and personal never have to know what parents went through before the development of life-saving vaccines.

4 Likes

That’s the thing…the sceptics haven’t lived the devastation.

3 Likes

Wrong. I lived through the Covid era and had a mild dose but never really felt the need to get the vaccine.

Right! Of course you needed it. To increase the herd immunity protecting those that were unable to receive the vaccine. Otherwise you are just saying F*ck You to all your friends and neighbours.

1 Like

I don’t really think that’s what people are referring to by devastation.

Polio equal to covid, great insight.

Oh, bully for you.

Not remotely comparable, and I’m sure you know it.

I don’t recall much from Polio times, except the it was quite common as a child to encounter adults in wheelchairs or with leg irons. Nor do I recall whether we were vaccinated with the ‘new’ oral version, a drip on a sugarlump, which was rolled out the year after I was born. I do recall various vaccinations being done at primary school, so mid-1960s, and that, as far as I was aware, everyone was given them without exception.

So yeah, we were the first generation that effectively grew up without it, although I believe the vaccine take-up was slower, and hence there were more cases, later, in the US than in the UK.

1 Like