Vaccines are really necessary

I recommend this to anyone who spends time in fields and forests. The ticks are everywhere these days. It’s a 3-stage vaccine over a period of up to a year and gives 10 years of coverage. I got mine at a pharmacy.

It doesn’t protect against Lyme Disease, unfortunately but that’s quite treatable with antibiotics if it’s caught early (i.e. Go for a blood test as soon as you see a red circle radiating out from a bite).

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So do I.
We all had the vaccine years ago so our son was already covered but was always on the lookout for ticks when out on exercises. There were recruits with ticks every day despite all the clothing they wore.

Did you realise I was posting evidence that adult boosters are not required?
The very word booster implies that one had completed the basic scheme

Err yes, that’s why I mentioned your contribution while recounting my own experience. “As per” meaning “this is consistent with what was said by”.

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At my last checkup I asked my doctor about getting a tetanus booster, and this matches what she told me.

Since I got the tetanus vaccine at the doctor’s office, I got diptheria and pertussis as well, as they don’t have the tetanus vaccine by itself.

That was the left arm. Got the vaccine against tick borne encephalitis in the right arm, because that won’t hurt as much. Supposedly. Not sure there’s that much difference.

I’ll get the second dose of the tick borne encephalitis in about a week. Better late than never.

clinical study for lyme disease vaccine is currently ongoing. if we are lucky, the vaccine could be on market in 2027. Pfizer is involved in it…
I will be the first in line, I have to say…

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That’s not really the problem with the rubella vaccine.
If a woman in early pregnancy gets it and it’s passed on to the foetus, there’s a very high chance that the baby will be born with severe health problems that cannot be fixed including heart, hearing and eye damage. Death is also possible.

No vaccine is 100% effective but the chances of a pregnant woman who has neither been vaccinated with the MMR nor where the vaccine hasn’t produced antibodies catching it is greatly reduced with mass vaccination.

There’s lots of data on this from countries where a vaccination programme isn’t in place.

Also mental problems are possible too. Our neighbour when I was a kid had it during her pregnancy and the child had learning difficulties, etc.

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Just want to clarify….that‘s a problem with catching rubella while pregnant, not getting the vaccine while pregnant. Is it advised to be vaccinated during pregnancy?

No, you can’t be vaccinated against rubella once you’re pregnant.

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The rubella vaccine is a live vaccine which is why it can’t be administered during pregnancy, there are vaccines which are safe for pregnant women and some are even recommended during pregnancy (whooping cough vaccine springs to mind).

Isn´t Rubella vaccine part of the standard vaccinations? I was invited to get it when they rolled it out in my home country.

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You even have to wait a few months after getting live vaccines before planning your pregnancy.

Yep, it makes up the MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) jab which you get when you’re a kid.

I think there was a downturn in kids having MMR after that Andrew Wakefield moron put out his now infamous flawed report that it “causes autism”.

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It depends whether you have antibodies. I had rubella as a teenager and have antibodies, so I didn’t have to be vaccinated.

Rubella was almost eliminated in CH (1-2 cases per year), so it is definitely worth it. If the whole world had the same high percentage of vaccinated kids as Switzerland, it would have been eliminated totally.

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It’s part of the MMR vaccine these days but there was a decline in uptake of that vaccine due to the Wakefield autism paper and there has since been a resurgence in cases of both measles and rubella but not so much mumps.

When I was a kid all the girls who had not already had it were offered the rubella vaccine at secondary school and most people took it.
The measles vaccine was only rolled out after I was too old for it and had already had measles anyway, my cousin was part of a clinical trial for that vaccine.

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I think what rubbed me the wrong way with these mRNA vaccines was

  • the contracts with BigPharma were kept secret
  • BigPharma wanted to be indemnified from all costs associated with side-effects (fair enough)
  • the still wanted to keep all the profits (where have we heard that before…?)
  • after the 2nd shot, it became clear that the virus was mutating faster than they could shoot up the shots and the variants became both more infectious and less lethal, rendering the whole scheme pretty pointless
  • a “vaccine” that is maybe good for 1/2 year didn’t deserve the name nor was I going to have it shot up.
  • as such, it looked like another case of “Government procured something, so Government is going to make sure it’s used up” - nobody wanted to be the one to admit that the billions thrown after BigPharma were useless at best

People complain about the couple of millions thrown after the “mask boys” for their mostly useless masks. But BigPharma is off the hook aparently…

I watched “Contagion” a couple of years before COVID hit and they got it pretty right. Scared the crap out of me when life started to imitate Hollywood.

I can understand politicians getting scared, too. But at some point, you have to have the guts and call it a day when it’s clear it’s just hype and scaremongering.

But of course, too many otherwise completely irrelevant politicians suddenly got shoved a mike into their faces every single day and asked for an opinion and guidance. Sometimes more than once a day.
That can understandably get very intoxicating…

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On the other hand, we’re 4 years past the initial outbreak and here we all are back to normal. I wonder if there was ever any modelling done to show the trajectory of taking no public health measures and not being able to produce even the first vaccine.

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The fear was that hospitals, police - even utilities - might stop functioning.

Europe isn’t China, where you can draw upon a huge reserve of people who all speak the same language and have worked with the same “system” all their lives.

I doubt we’d seen a much different outcome if we simply hadn’t done anything. But that would have been bad for BigPharma.

A couple of years earlier, the patent for Viagra had run out and they didn’t yet have a new cash-cow. mRNA tided them over nicely before Wegovy et.al.

What “Contagion” didn’t explore was just how much BigPharma is less about “curing” people these days but basically viewing them as a revenue-stream, with lifestyle drugs and “treatments” that require reapplication every couple of months.