What to bring? What to just buy in Switzerland?

My family is planning a move to Switzerland. My husband's company will be giving him a lump sum for our moving costs. We are thinking we won't bring much and just buy there. I know it is super expensive and we could blow through the money quickly but what is worth the cost of moving? What's the deal with all the electronic stuff? Better to just sell and buy there?

Here's a list of the things I'm unsure of:

food processor

food dehydrator

crock pot

heavy pots and pans

electric toothbrush

nice iphone bose speakers

linens: sheets, bedspreads, pillows, towels (we need new anyway, buy here or buy there?)

X-mas is coming before we move and we have to have a few things for our kids. What are good gifts to get here and have shipped? Things that might be hard to find there. English board games? Books? Legos? Etc?

Oh and we are moving from the U.S.

Try checking out ikea.ch (you can choose English language) and see if the prices shock you - they did shock me when I first came... Ikea is of the cheapest options here, one step cheaper would be conforama.ch, and if you want to check out the more expensive direction, have a look at interio.ch.

These furniture stores give you a slight idea of what quality stuff would cost you what. I don't want to give bad advice but I did definitely regret not bringing my kitchen equipment.

Also think about the power plug. Everything electronic will need a converter. I am EU, so my converter was kindof huge, and I hated using them. But maybe it's just me, because a lot of people are happily using their UK things with these adapters.

Read the UL label on the appliances. Most electronics that have a transformer will be dual voltage so you will just have to get an adapter to convert the US plug to fit the swiss wall outlet.

Appliances that have an electric motor (even if they are dual voltage) will run 17% slower than they do in the US, because of the hertz difference

Bed linens in Europe aren't typically sized to fit American mattresses, if you are bringing beds, bring linens.

Having kitchen stuff is nice if somebody else is paying the shipping, but some of it may be too big to use effectively. Your American cookie sheets will almost certainly be to big to fit into a Swiss oven.

There are lots of old threads that you'll find with the search function, including a couple that I started last year to deal with questions just like yours.

Later,

DR

Electrical items, it is easier to leave behind than to bring. On the EU end, you will have to buy converters/transformers, so it will cost you anyway.

Sheet, bedding and linens: bring over if you are taking your bed. buy here if you plan to buy your bed here (bed formats are a tad different).

Bose speakers: worth taking over.

computers/laptop, take. you just need a plug (not a transfo) to fit, and they are quite a bit more expensive (check the Apple store in switzerland and shudder).

Iphone speaker - bah. it fits well in a suitcase.

What I would bring: sport items, skis, bikes, outifits. clothes. your books if you are a reader, your reader loaded with books if you read electronically.

If you are fond of your tv shows, consider a sling box at some friends' home, so you can keep watching US tv from Europe (research that, I will not be around to explain). Otherwise, you will have to adapt. Music, entertainement tend to be expensive

I agree about the books. The book prices always give me a heart attack.

Do you already know where you will be living? That helps a great deal in deciding what furniture to bring. Otherwise you will bring stuff that won't fit once you find a place. Or you will wish you had brought more.

We knew where we would be living and our company was paying so we brought basically everything that we could - and then still ended up spending thousands (seriously) the first two weeks at IKEA.

As others have said, bed linens are different sizes so if you bring the bed bring the linens.

I'd bring all of your computer stuff and get adapters. Sell all other appliances and buy only what you need here.

Before we came we bought a Blue Ray/DVD player that is universal so it lays all regions. This has amazing! Especially if you have young children that like to watch movies. There isn't a lot on the TV that will be in English so we watch movies a lot. (We also brought these.)

As far as kitchen stuff we brought a lot. Spices!!! Our cookie tray fits our oven but barely. (If you bake a lot, try to bring some brown sugar, cream of tartar and vanilla (or other flavored) extracts. Pickle relish if it's a must have in your family. We shopped at COSTCO regularly in the States so when we moved we had lots of food to bring also. This has been nice but be prepared that it might not really fit in your new house. (Fridges are very small.)

We planned pretty carefully and we still didn't get it perfect. When we go home for Christmas we are taking a couple suitcases of stuff back (we kept our house there so we have a "storage" place still) and we have a list of things we are bringing this time.

Good luck with your move and remember that no matter what, it'll all work out.

If you are accustomed to sleeping with a bottom fitted sheet AND a top sheet, bring your own sheets. The Europeans only sleep with a duvet cover, which is like a giant pillow case for your duvet. Personally, I prefer the American way, as it is warmer ( for feet) and easier to wash, than the duvet cover.

Also, it seems furniture from places like Pottery Barn sell like hotcakes, when you are ready to leave.

Do you already know where you shall live? If you shall need curtains, have the estate manager photograph and measure all the windows. The US has amazing discount fabric stores, which you'll never find here.

All the best!

Unless the power supply can be switched to 220-230V, forget about it. You don't want to have to deal with converters every time you use one of these.

I'd take them along. Actually bring everything from your kitchen that doesn't need power. Same goes for table-/silverware.

Take it along and buy a converter to recharge. Ours are from the US as well and they work perfectly.

As far as bedding is concerned size might be an issue. Either bring everything (including some spare stuff) or nothing at all.

Towels, napkins, tablecloths: Bring as much as you can/need. Good quality stuff is overpriced here.

As DR said, take a peek at some of the other threads for more ideas. Consider thinking of this as a great opportunity to de-clutter. Here's my quick answer-

-- food processor - if you use it all the time, just buy here. If you use rarely, just bring and use a converter. We do and it works just fine. Same for the food dehydrator.

-- crock pot - bring and use a converter. they don't seem very common here and I really wish I had mine.

-- heavy pots and pans - bring, as long as they are not too huge to fit in your oven or your cupboards. Bring the lids, too, as lids are different size here. Forget large cookie sheets and your turkey roasting pan. They will not fit the ovens.

-- electric toothbrush - buy it here. You will have a heck of a time using a converter with the bathroom sockets.

--nice iphone bose speakers - bring

-- sheets - Deep-pocket queen-size sheets will fit a 160x200 bed. They don't fit perfectly, but they work and save a TON of money over buying sheets here. Also depends on whether you plan to bring your bed or not.

--bedspreads - epends on size. The washers here are rather small, so we had to leave our comforter behind. It wouldn't fit. There also are not laundromats on every corner here, like in the U.S.

--pillows - if you're bringing your sheets, bring your pillows and pillowcases. Pillows are a different size here.

--towels - buy and bring. you won't be sorry.

Most places do not have built-in closets. The standard here is to buy an armoire or three. Think carefully about large furniture items. Rooms here are not massive. Clothes dressers (imho) are a total waste of space. You're better off buying an armoire with sliding doors as opposed to ones that open out.

Happy searching and happy moving!

I'm going to respectfully disagree re electronics. We bought 3 heavy duty transformers for $150 each (overkill I admit). One is powering an entire high end home theater system we brought from the US i.e. we brought our HD Plasma, Receiver, DVD and blue ray players, PS3, Apple TV, and Home computer WiFi network, and all are working flawlessly on one converter. However, it is a good idea to get an international (code free) DVD player if you want to get discs here to play.

The second converter is in the office (we brought both our printers) This one could have been a lot smaller and lighter duty. The third one was intended to sit on the counter in the kitchen for appliances, but we are not using it. We brought most of our lighter appliances (Blender, Stab mixer, coffee pot, etc), but left home the heavy food processor and the like. We finally put away the kitchen transformer and just take the blender into the office when we want to make protein shakes or margarita's.

At the end of the day, it would have been really expensive to replace all the electronics, even shopping in Germany and risking getting stopped at the customs. The only things we bought here were a microwave (cheap everywhere) and a vacuum (not convenient to carry a transformer around the flat).

I would not recommend to bring electronics and (if the company is paying the move) I would bring as much furniture as needed for the new house/apartment (of course, if you have details of the size of the place that you will live).

I brought over 4 transformers that I bought from Amazon before the move. turns out I only use two on anything like a regular basis. One in the Kitchen for Crock pot (BTW-crock pots are really expensive here for some reason, if you can find them at all) and a rice cooker.

The other for X-box and guitar amp.

They cost about $20.00 each, depending on the wattage. For the items that I use them for, 500W works just fine.

FYI- you can bring desk and floor lamps, and make them work without too much trouble. Change the plug, put in European 220v bulb and good to go.

Oh, and you may already know this, but you will almost certainly have to put up new light fixtures when you move in. They are actually quite reasonably priced at IKEA and the Migro DIY.

Take the lump sum and use it to have a nice family holiday somewhere hot, a few months after you've arrived.

Ditch everything except personal mementos. Buy everything new.

I find having a good clearout of possessions very theraputic. I don't get these people who spend a fortune (even if it's someone else's money) bringing things like their favourite bed, just because it's 1cm wider than you can buy here or whatever.

Unless ... you're coming here temporarily (less than say 5 years). Then either store everything or bring it; whatever's cheaper. Just be prepared to live in a rather cramped space if you do bring all your stuff.

I like the idea of a holiday! We already feel like we need one after the long interview/negotiation process. I am really looking forward to letting go of the old. Crazy how quickly you acquire a bunch of junk.

Thanks for all the good info everyone!

You can buy a good, large crockpot here at Migros (main shopping store) for about 50 CHF. I think it's the Migros store's own brand. I have that one, and I've been really happy with it. It has low/high/keep warm settings, and the inner part is removable for easy washing.

For bedding... it's true that flat, top sheets are really difficult to find here. We have a 160x200 Swiss/European-sized bed, which I've found that American Queen-sized sheets fit perfectly on. I prefer a top sheet, so I always order sheets from the States. A lot of the beds here, though are 180x200, which I don't think Queen size sheets would fit. But you can find the matching bottom and top sheets here at a store called Manor. They're quite expensive, though. Also, large blankets (not comforters, but regular blankets) are either really expensive here or difficult to find. It seems most of the blankets sold here don't really cover the entire bed. They're more the size of a twin bed.

Pots and pans are rather expensive here (the ones from Ikea are okay, but not high quality). So if you have the space, I do suggest shipping those.

Something else that I've found to be either really expensive here or just difficult to find is decent decorative stuff -- especially for walls. So if you have any wall art that you like (e.g. framed prints, etc.), I do suggest you bring it. It seems like a lot of the wall art sold in stores here is more like what you'd see in a dorm room in the U.S. -- just kind of cheap and cheesy-looking.

Anything that isn't very heavy, you might want to consider shipping (e.g. dish towels and other linens). Most of the dish towels I find here are like that thin, waffle weave type -- not very absorbent. Another thing you won't find here are kitchen rugs.

Side note -- When I moved here from the U.S., I found the cheapest way to have stuff sent was by the US post office. I simply wrote "personal belongings -- moving to Switzerland" on each customs form, and I never had to pay any customs fees except for my electric guitar. I *think* there is a customs fee, no matter what, for electronics (though I could be mistaken).

I hope you enjoy your time here!

That's fair, but as a woman all I could think was: yay! SHOPPING!

Yeah, but then you notice the prices (and lack of selection), and the can quickly turn to

You are right. Boy it did.

But that's when I learnt my bank allows me to go a thousand minus on a plain account..

I brought 5 electric guitars over without paying import fees, but one at a time (and several were disassembled).

Tom