Dating French women in their 30-40s....anyone?

Yay! Something I know a little about.

*A Gift: a little something that will have come from a conversation you have had before the date, it shows that you pay attention.

*You pay for everything, that is how it works. After a few dates you will be invited.

*Sessy times: she'll know within 10 seconds if it's a oui/non and she'll let you know.

Always keep in mind this is a woman, not a girl. There is no need to play silly games... you will be if you start.

I would go out with J.L-P Sound like solid date.

engelbert, I'm kinda curious, what type of girls/women are you dating there?

I mean French women might imply its the cute, short brown hair, lovely a bit stiff kind of girls you'll have to put up with.

If that should be the case, sink me, I would have to agree with DBs suggestions.

This sounds like a controditius in terminus (or something like that)

How can you enjoy when you are bl@@dy nervous ? And about being

yourself, is it OK on a first date to discuss the merits of a shovelhead 80"

engine over a 74" engine ? I'm screwed ain't I ?

Lucky I have a GF, don't ask me how that happened, wasn't paying attention

I can attest to this one, the more feromones you spread the better

Of course! What lady wouldn't sit in rapture listening to a gentleman talk of thrust, pistons and 80" objects?

If you can bring oily lubricants into the conversation, all the better.

It's always worked for me...

I would bring water based lubrication into the conversation... keep it safe.

I can see I'm dealing with amatuers here.

French women are simple creatures, like hobbit's but taller. So don't worry about sparkling convesation too much just wave your arms about and say 'mais' a lot whilst keeping an expression of trapped wind on your face. After the cigarettes, sausage and plonk, to cement a lasting relationship swat up on facial hair removal.. then you'll have to beat her off with a stick

Well, I have never dated a French chick.

But my friend did (and she still happily does..), and believe it or not, what has worked for her and her girlfriend was to make it very very lighthearted from the start...

Never imply anything about the future, etc. Express your interest as of NOW, in a friendly way. My friend did this, even said she is not looking for anyone steady and long term. And voila...They have been happily steady and long term for a while now. Makes me laugh.

Not playing games, not leading anybody in, just enjoying a good time together, being close friends first, not rushing into stuff and slowly progressing. I think what charmed her French lover was the fact she felt no pressure and obligation and had enough time and space to realize she wants my friend. People who rush into things make an impression of being desperate. (Or, my theory is - knowing well what they want and going determined after it, which is not bad, so take this with a grain of salt.)

So, at the end, Uncle Bertrand is a bit right..

... and yet another French lady said: (sorry for my english)

Please don't boring with "blablabla..." it doesn't work! Be as yourself, show the best you have or whould have inside. A little of charm, a little of intelligence, a little of humour and a little of chivalry : this is the receipe...

good luck!

French Lady

Cool, calm, collect

Charming, intelligent and lots of eye contact

Interested but not clingy

Confident but not over-confident

And be yourself. Because that's all she'll be getting in the end.

It's really quite easy.

Not if the OP follows my Uncle's advice...

from my own experience, at least if you don't speak French just try to speak English in French accent, that'll be helpful for ur first date just use the word of OUI (Yes in English)

Francophilia - ugh you pervert!

Like:

Zut alors! Je suis bostin pour une oui!

... for example?

Ooh, yes. and whatever happens... keep a cool hod en do not pinnick!

I wouldn't try that approach, most Frenchies still have an open wound about a wee skirmish at Agincourt... a Scottish accent would work though.

I practice my French in YouTube like this

Hi englebert

Being a current resident of Paris, and having experienced first hand the French dating culture, I can give you a few general tips. That said, every person is different, not everyone fits the stereotype and every couple has their own specific vibe....

As a general outline, most Frenchies are all or nothing. They want either a quick sexual liason, or a soul-mate. They dont really do "dating" as the US/UK/Australia know it.

If you fancy a quick sexual liaison, then definitely lay on lots of sexual innuendo, the twinkle in the eye and after a few glasses of wine, a direct offer to go home for yet another glass (wink wink).

If you want something more lasting, then definitely play it more romantic than sexy. The puppydog eyes work well here. Dont offer to go home for a nightcap. Play the gentleman. Definitely make arrangements for a second date while still on the first.

A tip about kissing on the lips/french kissing: If you've had say, 2 dates, and then you kiss on the lips, it basically means that you're now a couple. You are locked in as a result of your lip-lock! In my case, I got hit with a kiss in the middle of the first date and was surprised when Mr Frenchie changed his facebook status to "in a relationship" just 2 weeks later. He was very confused. He thought that it was just a formality, and that we had, in fact, become life-partners from that first kiss. Go figure...

French women need compliments and affection to survive. If you dont constantly water a plant, it wilts and dies. Same for French women and attention. Call her 3 times a day, wrap your arms around her like she's a precious delicate flower, look into her eyes and tell you you've never felt so much passion for a woman....

She will be cold. Ice cold. She will look around at everything else except you. She will pout and look bored. She will complain. This is all a strategy to get you to smother her with love and attention and try to make it all better. It's your job to make her smile. You gotta work hard for her love!

I'm not sure what your nationality is, but another angle is to play the tough, macho, Anglo-man. Like Crocodile Dundee. Sometimes playing the dominant physical male really makes French girls go weak at the knees. Hence why there are so many French girls who love Australian men (the majority of which are still living like cave men). Be butch, treat them mean, keep them keen.

Of course, trying to work out the rules of dating is a futile exercise. If they dont like you for who you are, then there's no point being with them. Sure, be extra sensitive to cultural differences, talk about them openly, laugh even! But in the end, true love transcends all cultural boundaries. Go on your date with an open heart and mind, and show her the very best englebert that you can be.

Here endeth the lesson.

You need to translate this, no French of any gender will get it.

If the joke is for English speakers, then it's normal that I don't get it - in that case, I humblely beg for a hint... I may get it at the end.

humble regards,

F.

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