Think what you want.
Here’s an article from your beloved Guardian:
Teslas strip BMW drivers of proud title of worst on road
I suppose it’s quite possible that it’s actually the same drivers in each case as there must be some BMW drivers who move on to Teslas.
Do you think that’s a possibility?
The factory exports to all of Europe, Turkey, Taiwan…and Canada, recently.
Model Y actually managed to take the spot of the most-sold car in Europe again.
Most people aren’t buying new. They are buying cars coming out of fleets.
Fleets ain’t buying Teslas but VWs.
Can you provide a link for your source please?
I think it should say “most sold EV”.
Not so fast Tom. That Guardian piece is a humorous opinion round-up, not a news report or data analysis. In that section, Emma Brockes talks about driving a rental car and noticing that the people cutting her up seem to be in Teslas i.e. a personal anecdote played for satire… no statistics, no studies, just observation.
The way you use Google makes it a confirmation-bias engine 
Not sure you can get statistics for that sort of thing.
How do you measure “driving like a selfish twat”?
A better segmentation for worst drivers might be based on ‘age’, ‘gender’ and ‘experience’.
Younger drivers
Many studies find that younger drivers report more risky, reckless, and aggressive behaviours, and have higher accident involvement
Gender differences
Meta-analyses and large surveys tend to find that:
- Men report more ordinary and aggressive violations (speeding, dangerous overtakes).
- Women report more lapses (inattention, forgetting).
Inexperience
Less driving experience ties to higher crash risk and more errors, even when you hold age constant.
If you map that to Tesla owners, its not exactly a classic “first car” for young drivers since its expensive and its appeal leans more on tech than youth culture. Ownership tends to skew towards men, and it probably attracts a fair number of people who like gadgets and straight-line speed as opposed to driving pleasure.
So, notwithstanding a proper study, its conceivable that you see a noticeable number of twattish drivers in Teslas, just as you do with any quick, fashionable brand.
He’s a dedicated follower of fashion…
So far this year Tesla sales and Model Y are under half last year’s according to your chart (click on 2024) whereas VW is 25% up. Tesla Market share is also almost half.
Of course, YTD is a vague definition - it could include October or as far back as June.
Actually, some anecdotal data seems to suggest that apart from the Elon-thing, Tesla is a well liked brand for women.
As for the claim that Tesla drivers are the new BMW drivers - there may be some merit to this because you can get a used pre-2022 Model 3 Performance for rather little money these days while still enjoying peak 500 HP acceleration performance.
The 500 HP also support a rather … let’s call it “forward oriented” driving style.
The ideal car for someone with an “L” bumper sticker
If I was in the market I would snap up this Model 3 Performance with reasonable mileage and great colour scheme (metallic grey on white). A family saloon that would beat an Aston Martin Vantage V8, Audi R8, Ferrari Roma or McLaren GT in a drag race.
For a little more, there’s 2022 models available. Though white seats are a bit extra on top.
Too bad I’ve already got a 2022 SR+
Sadly, the Highlands are still very expensive.
Part of this, at least in the USA, is down to vandalism.
Would you really buy a car, knowing that it is targeted by hooligans for spray painting, stickering, and general vandalism? Insurance prices for teslas has also gone up as a result I hear…
I cancelled my tesla order a while ago - and next car / first electric car will most likely be a F150 lightning (if they don’t cancel it before then as it seems), or a chinese EV…
Not seeing much coming out of European manufacturers that competes on features with the chinese EVs… or on size with the US EVs
Insurance pricing in Switzerland. Prices are defined by age, citizenship and gender.
Since Tesla drivers skew male, traffic incidents will be higher than average simply because men tend to crash more. As we age, we calm down and the insurance price differences between men and women get smaller.
I just saw a youngish 18-20??ish lady burn rubber coming out of our side-road. Probably driving daddy’s car but who knows. I think the insurance companies should be re-evaluating their gender differences.
On average, the differences are there. At the individual level…not a surprise at all if a woman is more impulsive and risk-taker than 80% of men of the same age.
It’s pretty much canceled at this point.
If you want one, I’d get one sooner than later.
I think Maxus sells en EV truck here. I’m overtaken by one sometimes, when I bike to work.
Thankfully, Switzerland is an island of peace.
Not far from here, near Marseille in France, it is possible that people set fire to a car shop and managed to make burn 24 Teslas in the night from Wednesday to Thursday.
It’s a sensitive issue, lots of emotions.
Article in French.
The French do tend to be very committed.
One tme I worked for a French company and had to take a group of customers to one of their factories. When we arrived they were on strike and throwing computer servers out of upstairs windows.
So accelerated the timing of the evenings entertainment which involved going by cable car to a mountain top restaurant for dinner with stunning views from the terrace, turned out of our customers suffered from vertigo and I had to spend the whole evening holding his hand.
A day to remember
Anyway, back to the topic, Tesla stock is steady today after falling 10% in the last week.
There is a tug of war between the optimists in the Elon cult and those who analyze the dismal sales and profit numbers.
